Official 2017 Zurich DL Final #1 Discussion Thread

rojo wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Jebet will be world #1 in T&FN final rankings. All for naught. Nobody remembers the fastest time in the world if you don't get that gold.

Congrats to Coburn for PEAKING when it counts. Jesus that was well executed in retrospect.

Do people really think a peak changes in the span of 12 days?

Perhaps not physiologically. But mentally/every other factor that affects race performance.

Coburn was locked in. I've seen runners that can do that for one race and summon 100% of themselves. I've also seen runners that seem to have far less control over their 'peak.' Who knows....

What a great 400h. The world champion PRd and lost!!

1 IVB McMASTER Kyron 48.07

2 NOR WARHOLM Karsten 48.22

NR

3 SUI HUSSEIN Kariem 48.45

NR

4 USA CLEMENT Kerron 49.2

5 TUR COPELLO Yasmani 49.23

6 GBR GREEN Jack 49.41

7 RSA van ZYL LJ 49.92

8 USA JACKSON Bershawn 50.02

rojo wrote:

What a great 400h. The world champion PRd and lost!!

1 IVB McMASTER Kyron 48.07

2 NOR WARHOLM Karsten 48.22

NR

3 SUI HUSSEIN Kariem 48.45

NR

4 USA CLEMENT Kerron 49.2

5 TUR COPELLO Yasmani 49.23

6 GBR GREEN Jack 49.41

7 RSA van ZYL LJ 49.92

8 USA JACKSON Bershawn 50.02

He lost to a sub-48 guy.

Is that the lace we'll ever see Batman run? Thanks for the memories.

In the pole vault, Kendricks was the only one to clear 5.87m. Lisek made one attempt at 5.87m, failed it, and decided to pass to the next height (5.94m).

Wojciechowski didn't clear 5.87m and will settle for third.

In high jump, Barshim is still jumping. Bar at 2.36m and he only has one attempt remaining.

Negative. The race was fixed for the Americans.

This had to be one of the most obvious fixed races. Coburn beating Doped Africans.

Time for the mixed 800m. Will this be the performance that causes the IAAF and everyone else to wake up?

Probably not.

rojo wrote:

JEBET!!!! wrote:

JEBET 8:55.33

2nd fastest in history.

Done off a 3:02km

Insanity!

Yes, they went 3:02, 5:55, 8:55. I don't think the slow opener cost them as she was only 3 flat her last 1km but it would have been close. He second km was 2:53.

So 3:02, 2:53, 3:00. If they'd gon like 2:59, 2:56, then maybe they'd have a 2:57 in there.

As you could watch on the stream, they took the first split right at the finish line. That 3:02 split is more like 1015 meters or thereabout.

ABSOLUTELY, YES.sometimes you peak or go too deep in a race or workout and you are done. have to rebuild and the magic is gone for that build up. you usually don't get more than 10-14 days, especially after qualifying rounds. it's really tricky to time right. (see: alan webb. many many other runners)you should know this.

rojo wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Jebet will be world #1 in T&FN final rankings. All for naught. Nobody remembers the fastest time in the world if you don't get that gold.

Congrats to Coburn for PEAKING when it counts. Jesus that was well executed in retrospect.

Do people really think a peak changes in the span of 12 days?

This ^

At the end of the day, only medals count. especially the gold.

Great 400m hurdles Warholm can't complain too much about the loss at was the fastest he's ever run:

http://www.letsrun.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screenshot-541.png

Anyone else think it's weird how Kendricks gives all his competitors advice during competition. I used to hate it how my college coach thought I couldn't be friendly with my opponents outside of the competition but inside of it I find a bit weird. Maybe his take is I want you to jump high and I'll jump higher. If I'm playing someone in tennis and want to beat them, generally i'm not going to give them pointers however. Shows how T&F is different.

wejo wrote:

Anyone else think it's weird how Kendricks gives all his competitors advice during competition. I used to hate it how my college coach thought I couldn't be friendly with my opponents outside of the competition but inside of it I find a bit weird. Maybe his take is I want you to jump high and I'll jump higher. If I'm playing someone in tennis and want to beat them, generally i'm not going to give them pointers however. Shows how T&F is different.

It's a field eventers' thing.

great run. semenya with a coburn like finish to win it

Hutchings seems to spend a bit of time lurking in letsrun

If I was a meet promoter, I'd tell Caster, "I'm not paying you if you run a negative split." While Hutchings said she didn't run a negative split. I most definitely think she did.

Semenya runs about 280m and trounces the field 1:55.84 high.

Niyonsaba 2nd, Wambui 3rd.

Paul Swangard has no business on these telecasts. He is beyond incompetent. I don't care if he is a good guy or has a background in track and field. Swangard makes Rick Allen look like the greatest commentator of all time in comparison.

This is the second time this season I've watched a men's 1500m race with Paul Swangard absolutely paralyzed to identify one of the leaders during the final lap. If you are so lazy and inept than you can't differentiate any of the Kenyans from each other, then take a seat in the restroom while the race is being run. We don't need you behind the mike.

During that Diamond League race earlier this summer Swangard was so bewildered he didn't name a single runner during the final 15 seconds of the race. This time he had no clue who the leaders were so he desperately looked well back for anyone he could identify, and naturally that was the white guys like Wightman and Ingebrigtsen. Kiprop stands out so Swangard was able to name him.

Finally Todd Harris came to the rescue by at least being able to identify Cheruiyot as the leader and eventual winner with about 50 meters to run.

If Swangard had been solely in charge no doubt we never would have heard Cheruiyot's name, well not until perhaps 5 seconds after the finish.

Todd Harris should be given a chance in the full time play by play role. He was used in that capacity in the recent swimming world championships and fared surprisingly well, including noticeable improvement as the meet went on. At least he studies the athletes and can pick out who is moving into contention and who is dropping back. Harris and Boldon teamed effectively today during the opening women's 400m hurdles.

But when you stick Paul Swangard in the supporting role and expect any help during a race, you're not going to get it. He apparently cares about Oregon athletes and nobody else. If the world looked like Oregon, Paul Swangard would be fine.

Barshim cleared 2.36m on final attempt in HJ.

Lisek doesn't make 5.94m in PV, so will settle for t-2nd with fellow Pole. Kendricks hasn't cleared 5.94m yet but has 2 attempts remaining.

Barshim is fun to watch.

Also I think the next few seasons of the 400 hurdles will be very exciting, will definitely be following with a lot more interest then before.