Cleveland Browns- 12 players kneeling for protest

For starters, protests aren't popular for the people on the other side of the coin so of course half of the people are pis*ed... If it got your attention, it at least partially did what it was designed to do. It's hard to blame an athlete for using their platform to protest something they actually believe in. Instead of whining about someone being ungrateful or disrespectful to the flag maybe think for a minute how others have been disrespectful to them to cause them to feel that way. It's getting ridiculous on both sides and it's hard to argue against that.

exthrower wrote:

Poor millionaires...Life has been so tough....

Do you really not get the concept of protesting in order to support someone other than yourself?

exthrower wrong yet again wrote:

exthrower wrote:

Poor millionaires...Life has been so tough....

Do you really not get the concept of protesting in order to support someone other than yourself?

Plus, you ever notice that nobody comes on here whining and complaining more than exthrower, schultz, dickhead gary, and other conservatives? I guess that's why the biggest crybaby ever to occupy the oval office is their hero.

exthrower wrote:

They should be incredibly grateful that they were born in the US....The most advanced, prosperous, altruistic country in history...Instead they whine and moan and try to appear disadvantaged...What dumb, pathetic creatures...

That guy above was right. Nobody whines and moans more than you and other conservatives. "Wah! I want my country back! Wah! The Mexicans are taking my job! Wah! Affirmative action means no white people can be successful!. Wah! Wah! Wah!"

They are part of the reason the country isn't great. When we let entertainers (jesters) make the more than builders, teachers, soldiers and farmers (workers), and no one sees a problem with that, decline is inevitable...Keep us entertained tho, so we can't see our priorities are backwards.

My thoughts wrote:

They are part of the reason the country isn't great. When we let entertainers (jesters) make the more than builders, teachers, soldiers and farmers (workers), and no one sees a problem with that, decline is inevitable...Keep us entertained tho, so we can't see our priorities are backwards.

It's capitalism. There are 3.2 million teachers in America and 1.5 million serving in active duty military. There are only about 1900 current NFL players in the world. Just about any able bodied young adult can enlist in the armed services and teaching is available to just about anyone that can complete college. A spot on an NFL roster is much harder to get.

DeBron Lames wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Maybe. I personally don't think that had anything to do with declining ratings last year (the election, see the ratings during and after the election).

I am in favor of stopping playing the anthem before sporting events. Its a stupid political tradition that the owners have injected into the game.

I've been an NFL fan since about 1975. For me, personally, football is a bit of an escape from other things. So when players drag social or political issues into the game, particularly when it becomes more a focus than some of the plays, I start to tune out. I'm actually a bit more of a fan of college football over the past few years.

Playing the national anthem prior to the game is inherently a political act. If you want politics and social issues out of the game, eliminating this stupid tradition is a good way to start.

It is worth noting the Streisand effect of all the Trump tweets. Kaepernick would have been forgotten in about a year as a prima donna QB who lost focus with his on the field activism. Now, he is going to become the leader of some sort of movement.

exthrower wrote:

Yes.....If these millionaire thugs had to get a real job, most would be working at a carwash....

Don't you have a cross burning to go to?

Mr. Obvious wrote:

DeBron Lames wrote:

I've been an NFL fan since about 1975. For me, personally, football is a bit of an escape from other things. So when players drag social or political issues into the game, particularly when it becomes more a focus than some of the plays, I start to tune out. I'm actually a bit more of a fan of college football over the past few years.

Playing the national anthem prior to the game is inherently a political act. If you want politics and social issues out of the game, eliminating this stupid tradition is a good way to start.

I tend to agree. Eliminate it. Then instead of taking a knee, or not coming out of the locker room they can perhaps just refuse to play, in protest. I wonder how long the spineless owners and their lackey commissioner would allow that to last, given the resultant negative effect on the profitability of the league. Not to mention the aforementioned players new found unemployment.

Jake92 wrote:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20409319/cleveland-browns-players-take-knee-circle-national-anthem-monday-preseason-game

What are they protesting for?!?!

Suffice to say I'm not proud to have lived in Cleveland, or rooted for the Browns back in the day. The "mistake on the lake" even has more meaning now.

exthrower wrote:

exthrower whining again wrote:

That guy above was right. Nobody whines and moans more than you and other conservatives. "Wah! I want my country back! Wah! The Mexicans are taking my job! Wah! Affirmative action means no white people can be successful!. Wah! Wah! Wah!"

But...but...but...we won the popular vote.....

How fast can you run a 5K? lol

Or spend countless hours on a website hurling baseless insults at people they have never met and dont really know anything about.Your jealousy of those who are not like you is ever growing. But I do commend you for your solidarity you show with the current POTUS - you insecure/racist types do have to stick together.

exthrower wrote:

Yes.....If these millionaire thugs had to get a real job, most would be working at a carwash....

Mr. Obvious wrote:

I am in favor of stopping playing the anthem before sporting events. Its a stupid political tradition that the owners have injected into the game.

I haven't given any pledge all my life, even when a little kid in grade school, and I'm a caucasion "white" person.

When people are giving a pledge, which doesn't make any sense, I just stand with my hands at my sides and say nothing.

This is the same that people do in foreign countries when they're giving their own pledges.

The problem is, they have to be more detailed on what they are upset with or nothing will change. I feel most people are just thinking they dislike their own country, for the current media hyped cops on blacks and media hyped gov't politics. There are problems that their money and attention could bring to actually set examples and help, not encourage anti patriotism, while disrespecting all military. This starts the fall of nations and seems negative thus far. We should do away with the anthem, flags, and any other sense of patriotism or nationalism if it offends people at events? How many should be offended /affected before change is made. .001%? One handicap man in a city, the whole city pays for handicap ramps on every sidewalk. I disagree. Quit playing the game and get a real productive job, that's one way to help this country, if you keep doing the same, you should leave the country you are only seperating yourself from.

exthrower wrote:

They 'gave the finger' to their country

Actually, they're giving the finger to dumb'fck loser retards like you.