Sandra Vi going for record across America

back up, folks wrote:

I'm not sure if this has been brought up here, but besides the Strava upload, Mimi also says that she was to be carrying a GPS tracker.

IF she is using a GPS either it is not GPS, or she is not sharing that data.

Bean Counter 2 wrote:

Bean counter 1 wrote:

Another blow for the Sandy fan boys

45.9 miles in almost 14 hours.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1200437589

Meanwhile Mimi pops another 58+ mile day. She will finish is a amazingly marvellous [sic, Brit-spelling] less than 48 days at her current pace. She might even beat Frank G's older record if she cranks it the last two days. Only Pete K would have transconned faster than Mimi. Wowzers!!!!

Yeah, this is getting ridiculous...

Bean Counter 2 wrote:

Meanwhile Mimi pops another 58+ mile day. She will finish is a amazingly marvellous [sic, Brit-spelling] less than 48 days at her current pace. She might even beat Frank G's older record if she cranks it the last two days. Only Pete K would have transconned faster than Mimi. Wowzers!!!!

But when the 'boots-on-the-ground' show up, one can expect the daily mileage to drop precipitously, you think?

excuze me wrote:

But when the 'boots-on-the-ground' show up, one can expect the daily mileage to drop precipitously, you think?

Probably not. The mileage might even increase because Mimi is finished with the Rockies and is moving towards the Plains.

Bean counter 1 wrote:

Another blow for the Sandy fan boys

45.9 miles in almost 14 hours.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1200437589

you are so right.

the conditions and terrian remain constant so her output should too.

besides there is almost zero opportunity now for her to make up the 9.1 miles she dropped today.

excuze me wrote:

Bean Counter 2 wrote:

Meanwhile Mimi pops another 58+ mile day. She will finish is a amazingly marvellous [sic, Brit-spelling] less than 48 days at her current pace. She might even beat Frank G's older record if she cranks it the last two days. Only Pete K would have transconned faster than Mimi. Wowzers!!!!

But when the 'boots-on-the-ground' show up, one can expect the daily mileage to drop precipitously, you think?

Maybe the boots can work as a tag team. Random joining her should also be done--surprise!!

Hopefully the boots post their GPS, and upload to Strava, then compared. That level proof will partly make up for the lack of real-time GPS being provided by Mimi. It seems no one has joined her for any part of her first 2000 km.

Geography teacher wrote:

excuze me wrote:

But when the 'boots-on-the-ground' show up, one can expect the daily mileage to drop precipitously, you think?

Probably not. The mileage might even increase because Mimi is finished with the Rockies and is moving towards the Plains.

Yup, Mimi will beat Frank G's #2 transcon time. She will be #1 woman and #2 overall. :-)

i agree wrote:

Bean counter 1 wrote:

Another blow for the Sandy fan boys

45.9 miles in almost 14 hours.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1200437589

you are so right.

the conditions and terrian remain constant so her output should too.

besides there is almost zero opportunity now for her to make up the 9.1 miles she dropped today.

It's not Sandy's fault. She is doing fine, actually great for the short time she is running ultras. Her fans are just delusional when it comes to her performance.

Her average mileage is down to 52.3 miles. Which is really good.

Bean counter 1 wrote:

Her fans are just delusional when it comes to her performance.

Her average mileage is down to 52.3 miles. Which is really good.

Sandy has to average 48.3 mpd to match the 63.5 day unofficial record.

Mimi fanboys need to pay attention. She is on pace to possible be #2 all-time for a US transcon--AND to beat the old record over 2 full weeks (about 15 days faster).

Bean Counter 2 wrote:

Bean counter 1 wrote:

Her fans are just delusional when it comes to her performance.

Her average mileage is down to 52.3 miles. Which is really good.

Sandy has to average 48.3 mpd to match the 63.5 day unofficial record.

Mimi fanboys need to pay attention. She is on pace to possible be #2 all-time for a US transcon--AND to beat the old record over 2 full weeks (about 15 days faster).

Still a looooong way to go before we can speculate about records.

Bean counter 1 wrote:

Bean Counter 2 wrote:

Sandy has to average 48.3 mpd to match the 63.5 day unofficial record.

Mimi fanboys need to pay attention. She is on pace to possible be #2 all-time for a US transcon--AND to beat the old record over 2 full weeks (about 15 days faster).

Still a looooong way to go before we can speculate about records.

Speculate. Oh you didn't do that, did you? :-)

back up, folks wrote:

I'm not sure if this has been brought up here, but besides the Strava upload, Mimi also says that she was to be carrying a GPS tracker. Is that still in effect? Is that not a real-time check on here whereabouts? Or can that be hacked? Or has she stopped carrying the tracker? Any answers or comments on these issues? (I'm new to this stuff.)

Yes, Mimi is also carrying a GPS tracker. It is what shows on the homepage of her run across America website. As previously posted, GPS trackers can easily be spoofed. For example, Garmin Inreach GPS trackers use a web API that anybody with a computer that spoof GPS data to.

For Strava data, I have made a demonstration spoof where I ran a mile in 3 min 30 sec on the track, obliterating the previous world record:

I knew a girl who wanted to do the rim-to-rim-rim, but it was a bit much for my taste and took a pass.

excuze me wrote:

meant "Coast-to-Coast-to-Coast". Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim (Grand Canyon) has already been done.

Scam_Watcheroo wrote:

Yes, Mimi is also carrying a GPS tracker. It is what shows on the homepage of her run across America website. As previously posted, GPS trackers can easily be spoofed. For example, Garmin Inreach GPS trackers use a web API that anybody with a computer that spoof GPS data to.

For Strava data, I have made a demonstration spoof where I ran a mile in 3 min 30 sec on the track, obliterating the previous world record:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8447571

First off, nice job on the exercise and bringing this to awareness. I can't seem to get the Mimi tracking thing to work. Are you saying her GPS tracker is NOT updating real-time, like SandraVi's Garmin, or are you saying the data can even be spoofed in-situ, to give the appearance of real-time tracking?

Mimi's GPS tracker only updates every XX minutes. It doesn't update as frequently as Sandra's Garmin Inreach.

Both these types of GPS trackers can be spoofed to give the illusion of real time tracking because all they do is send GPS coordinates back to a web server and there is nothing to authenticate the GPS coordinates. Any programmer could create an app to spoof GPS coordinates and send it back on a web request. I don't think Sandra or Mimi are cheating, but rather this is an issue that the running community in general are not aware of enough.

Scam_Watcheroo wrote:

back up, folks wrote:

I'm not sure if this has been brought up here, but besides the Strava upload, Mimi also says that she was to be carrying a GPS tracker. Is that still in effect? ...

Yes, Mimi is also carrying a GPS tracker. It is what shows on the homepage of her run across America website. ...

She does not have a real time GPS tracker on her homepage. But real time data is not there. If you can find that please let us know where it is.

What I see is that Mimi has a Google map with position points that are updated every few minutes (10 minutes?) but the positions do not change very often. She has state border drop pins on her map. To the side of the map she has a link to her Strava data, data which she uploads after a run is done, or until internet can be found. Next to the Strava date is a "Stats" tab. Her plan is to run 53 days for 2850 miles, which is just under 54 miles per day. She is well ahead of that pace. And she has an overall time tracker. Nothing real time.

Scam_Watcheroo wrote:

I don't think Sandra or Mimi are cheating, but rather this is an issue that the running community in general are not aware of enough.

We are seeing maybe Sandra starting to crack.

But you are aware 55yr-old Mimi has already been through knee surgery in recent years, yet is cranking huge miles out, regardless of terrain, daily...and you don't have any suspicions?

Not real time GPS wrote:

She does not have a real time GPS tracker on her homepage. But real time data is not there. If you can find that please let us know where it is.

What I see is that Mimi has a Google map with position points that are updated every few minutes (10 minutes?) but the positions do not change very often. She has state border drop pins on her map. To the side of the map she has a link to her Strava data, data which she uploads after a run is done, or until internet can be found. Next to the Strava date is a "Stats" tab. Her plan is to run 53 days for 2850 miles, which is just under 54 miles per day. She is well ahead of that pace. And she has an overall time tracker. Nothing real time.

That is Mimi's GPS tracker that only updates every XX minutes, there is no other live tracker.

Not real time GPS wrote:

What I see is that Mimi has a Google map with position points that are updated every few minutes (10 minutes?) but the positions do not change very often. ... Nothing real time.

I want to be clear on this point, because I haven't gotten real-time updates of her data to work. So you are agreeing that 'every few minutes' data ARE NOT being upload during the data, as the points are being recorded? Or they are?