Farfignugen wrote:
Sorta disappointed in Butchart this year. Had high hopes after Rio.
me too. Had high hopes after his great progress last year culminating in his Rio PR. This year, especially with his indoor form, I thought he would be an outside medal hope, but a long way off that. Was hoping he would run close to 13 dead, but doubtful this year.
Big props to S.Krumins. She doubles at worlds 5k/10k 8th & 5th in finals and runs 8:34 today PB less than a week after the W champs.
kd wrote:
They need to raise the barriers in the women's steeplechase to the standard men's height... right now steeple looks like a joke. I mean, I was better on the flats as a steepler than this bunch.
Yeah and raise the men's up 6 inches too, they're way too low currently.
Emily Infeld was listed in the 3000m, but came home to Portland because of a hip problem.
so I finally got to watch this today, better late than never
I skipped spoilers for startlists so I was surprised to first see Coburn line up for a flat 3000m without steeple but then shocked to see Molly Huddle ?!?!?
Why would Huddle do 3000m when she is now completely tuned for HM and full marathon distance? Even 10,000m exposes her slow-twitch weakness
Was she under contractual obligations or something like that?
But also interesting to note how steeples are a serious strength for Coburn and that a flat 3000m defeats her podium ability.
BTW how much faster do you think Obiri might be with a more efficient upper body movement like some other east-african women (both Kenyan and Ethiopian)
but why wrote:
so I finally got to watch this today, better late than never
I skipped spoilers for startlists so I was surprised to first see Coburn line up for a flat 3000m without steeple but then shocked to see Molly Huddle ?!?!?
Why would Huddle do 3000m when she is now completely tuned for HM and full marathon distance? Even 10,000m exposes her slow-twitch weakness
Was she under contractual obligations or something like that?
But also interesting to note how steeples are a serious strength for Coburn and that a flat 3000m defeats her podium ability.
BTW how much faster do you think Obiri might be with a more efficient upper body movement like some other east-african women (both Kenyan and Ethiopian)
Huddle wanted to try and qualify for the Diamond League final, so she ran this race to try and pick up points.
NOP Skeptic wrote:
Frerichs only about 8 seconds slower than her world's race. This had to just be an off race for her.
I wasn't as surprised by Coburn though. Not only does she just have flawless steeple form meaning the steeple doesn't add much time, but she ran a 1500m earlier this year and only ran 4:13. She didn't have a ton of speed this year (granite she ran PR's of 4:06 and won the NCAA mile in 4:29 in the past).
She has said numerous time she did a lot more strength this year and that has obviously worked more. Maybe she will alternate steeples and 5k's more in the future.
Also, keep in mind that Frerich's 1500m PR is only 4:18. The 3000m SC takes a lot more strength than a flat 3k. Look at the top steeplers in the world right now. Most of them would definitely be, comparatively better in the 5k.
Unfortunately, you are wrong again. This is not a big surprise.
You need to follow correct LRC thinking.
1) Emma and Courtney both ran 3000m PERSONAL BESTS today!!!
2) Emma's SC time of 9:02 is only 14 seconds SLOWER than her 3000m personal best!
3) Courtney's SC time of 9:03 is only 10 seconds SLOWER than her 3000m personal best!
LetsRun.com logical and correct conclusion:
1) It is obvious that Emma and Courtney are BIG DOPERS!!!!
It is not a big surprise at LetsRun.com
Soft Machine wrote:
Considering that the steeple is run at about 5000 pace, it stands to reason the 5000 would be a better match for Coburn and Frerichs. Interesting that Quigley has a 1500 PR that is 15 seconds better than Frerichs'.
This race struck me with how Obiri is working her arms like a sprinter the whole time. Just doesn't look efficient at all.
You are very, very, very correct.
Obiri has absolutely horrible running economy/efficiency...which is why she won the 5000m GOLD MEDAL at the 2017 World Championships and the SILVER MEDAL at the 2016 Olympics, and has a 5000m PR of 14:18.
Well done.
How many World Championship and Olympic medals do you have???
Omega-alphamale wrote:
Soft Machine wrote:Considering that the steeple is run at about 5000 pace, it stands to reason the 5000 would be a better match for Coburn and Frerichs. Interesting that Quigley has a 1500 PR that is 15 seconds better than Frerichs'.
This race struck me with how Obiri is working her arms like a sprinter the whole time. Just doesn't look efficient at all.
You are very, very, very correct.
Obiri has absolutely horrible running economy/efficiency...which is why she won the 5000m GOLD MEDAL at the 2017 World Championships and the SILVER MEDAL at the 2016 Olympics, and has a 5000m PR of 14:18.
Well done.
How many World Championship and Olympic medals do you have???
Do the number of medals a fan has or whether or not they've been to the Olympics mean a fan can't point out glaringly obvious observations? Asking for a friend.
I think we had a pretty good idea already of Coburn's limited capability in the flat 3k. And we shouldn't have had any illusions about Frerichs'. But both Coburn and Frerichs made personal bests. I was most shocked with Huddle being only about 5 seconds faster than Coburn.
notrump wrote:
I think we had a pretty good idea already of Coburn's limited capability in the flat 3k. And we shouldn't have had any illusions about Frerichs'. But both Coburn and Frerichs made personal bests. I was most shocked with Huddle being only about 5 seconds faster than Coburn.
Colleen Quiqley has a 1500m PR of 4:03...which is even faster than Emma and Courtney...so Colleen is an even bigger DOPER than Emma and Courtney.
Colleen and Courtney are both coached by SCHUMACHER.
Jager had a "suspicious" atypical ABP with a lot of follow-up testing planned (+++++ priority.)
They are all in the same BTC group (=Nike).
It is obvious that ALL of the Bowerman Track Club (=Nike) runners are probably DOPING!
It is not a big surprise.
By the way, Ryan Hill (BTC) was not really sick with gastroenteritis from the norovirus outbreak at the World Championships.
Ryan Hill probably knew that he would not pass his DOPING test, so he did not start the 5000m.
Ben Blankenship also sucks as a runner.
Hassan Mead (27:32 10K) also sucks as a runner.
Mo Ahmed (27:02 10K) is a Canadian and also sucks as a runner.
Centro is horrible as a runner now.... and is a DOPER.
Robby Andrews is DONE should give up and retire.
Paul Chelimo should not run for the USA. He should run for Kenya.
Eilish McColgan and Laura Muir have improved too much... and are probably DOPERS.
Anyone know what happened to Georgeanne Moline? She was on the start list for the W400h but didn't race. Thx.
Here is more evidence of the British Doping Conspiracy involving the Scots Eilish McColgan and the 'wee sparra' Laura Muir (winner of the Bronze medal in the 1500m for women at the 2017 World Championships).
The British Doping Conspiracy is located at remote high altitude locations, and the remote location of Monte Carlo, Monaco. It also involves an email to Lord Sebastian Coe (IAAF President)...which he has not read.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSjVi9MjPlc/?taken-by=eilishmccolgan
https://twitter.com/lauramuiruns/status/866056779184062464
https://twitter.com/EilishMccolgan
The conspiracy also involves Ms. Paula Radcliffe.
This is not a big surprise.
Please stop it Paula.
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