Official 2017 Thursday at Worlds Discussion Thread - Makwala goes for it in the 200

1/1000th of a second gets WVN the silver in the 200m!!!

Seb Coe must be hoping mad. Usain won't be that easy to replace.

Guy gets good after moving to Turkey. Anyone want to give an over/under on how long it is before he tests positive for something?

lol, short distance sprint running, where people win by a margin at the technical limit of timing and then the winner 0.01 seconds faster is the doper, not the other half dozen with nearly the same world-class time

beachmouse wrote:

Guy gets good after moving to Turkey. Anyone want to give an over/under on how long it is before he tests positive for something?

He ran 20.04 when he was 19 and still in Azerbaijan, so it's not like he has suddenly improved hugely.

He may well be clean but I automatically disregard any medal won by Turkey.

The winning time is not any special.

jdfkerg wrote:

beachmouse wrote:

Guy gets good after moving to Turkey. Anyone want to give an over/under on how long it is before he tests positive for something?

He ran 20.04 when he was 19 and still in Azerbaijan, so it's not like he has suddenly improved hugely.

Yeah the only under 20 athlete faster than him is Bolt.

He ran 19.8 last year I believe and I think broke 10 for 100m earlier this year

(none of this means he isn't doping but he didn't come from nowhere)

Was there wind? Why are the times so slow?

v7 wrote:

Was there wind? Why are the times so slow?

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jdfkerg wrote:

beachmouse wrote:

Guy gets good after moving to Turkey. Anyone want to give an over/under on how long it is before he tests positive for something?

He ran 20.04 when he was 19 and still in Azerbaijan, so it's not like he has suddenly improved hugely.

Ya seriously. If he runs 19.5 here, you probably have a valid point. But to me this seemed more like a WVN collapse than a breakout (aka doping-enhanced) race.

Are you people serious? Its 60 degrees running into a slight wind. WTF!

You're not running 19.5 tonight. How dumb

Retardation wrote:

Are you people serious? Its 60 degrees running into a slight wind. WTF!

You're not running 19.5 tonight. How dumb

Don't be fooled by those that say that. If it was Makwaaala winning, they would have said, what an athlete, what an amazing run, stunning, ridiculous performance, superlative, a new 200 king, on and on. Now someone they don't want to win (due to color), well, that's another matter. It was slow, competition was non-existent, the event has gone downwards... It's pretty transparent.

I'm sorry if I can't feel good after a gold medal for Turkey in the 200, but,you know, try and name two clean Turkish athletes.

It's not the athlete in particular, it's the fact that he's someone I've never heard of from Turkey.

From above comments, it seems like he's a young rising talent, so it's probably my fault that I haven't heard of him. Fair enough.

But Turkey has sent enough dirty athletes to championships for that to be a red flag on its own. For now I guess he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Actually, that's my main lamentation, that for all its resurgence the great country of Botswana still hasn't won a freaking medal this week!

Let's hope they get gold on the relay but at this rate, theyre luck isn't good

rojo wrote:

I'm glad Kwemoi is in.

I mist-typed and asked who the Olympian was instead of Ethiopian.

Taresa Tolosa - he's a 19 year old with a 3:34 pb. Must have been hurt. Noticeable limp. Ended up a DNF.

The top Ethiopian, Wote, wasn't even there ... of course they made no mention of this on the NBCSports broadcast. 5th fastest performer in the world this year, with 3:31.63 and won a diamond league 1500 too.

Their alternate, Regassa, was a DNS. The teen who just beat out Wote at their trials in Hengelo (3:33.7 I think) was 8th in the slowest heat, so he didn't advance either.

Tough for Ethiopia. Historically I don't think they usually have good 1500 guys, but lately they had Mekonnen (3:32. silver at 2009 Worlds, plus 2 World Indoor golds) then Gebremedhin (3:31, 2012 indoor bronze, 6th 2012 Olympics) and Wote (3:29, 2014 indoor silver). Sad to see them not even get a guy into the semis.

here's are his season bests:

2007 20.67 +1.8 Baku (AZE) 03.06.2007 101 1117

2008 20.66 +0.3 Beijing (CHN) 18.08.2008 94 1128

2009 20.04 +0.1 Beograd (SRB) 10.07.2009 7 1222

2010 20.73 -0.8 Ankara (TUR) 29.08.2010 106 1122

2011 20.32 +0.8 Istanbul (TUR) 11.06.2011 24 1166

2012 20.53 0.0 Lappeenranta (FIN) 18.07.2012 74 1138

2013 20.46 -0.7 Mersin (TUR) 26.06.2013 55 1153

2014 20.38 -0.4 Zürich (SUI) 14.08.2014 48 1163

2015 19.88 -0.4 Zagreb (CRO) 08.09.2015 6 1241

2016 20.09 -0.3 Rio de Janeiro (BRA) 17.08.2016 17 1207

2017 20.08 +0.6 Baku (AZE) 18.05.2017 11 1207

when did he move to turkey? if it was 2014/15, i think we know what is going on here.

The letter why wrote:

It's not the athlete in particular, it's the fact that he's someone I've never heard of from Turkey.

From above comments, it seems like he's a young rising talent, so it's probably my fault that I haven't heard of him. Fair enough.

But Turkey has sent enough dirty athletes to championships for that to be a red flag on its own. For now I guess he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

he's also not young. he's 27. bolt is 30 and everyone acts like he is a dinosaur.