Kenyans Can NEVER Lose The Steeple

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Who's "Jäger"?

What, bro?

As long as Kenya doesn't care about drug testing you're absolutely correct.

Jager truly gave the gold medal to the Kenyans if he was healthy. He had the world leading time and looked primed for sub 8 minutes. At the same time Kenya was at its weakest point ever with Brimin Kipruto unable to make the finals and Jairus a shell of his former self as Ezekiel Kemboi is clearly over the hill. The only "savior" Conseslus was having issues of his own with ankle injury that almost made him Not start in these championship. For the first time, Kenya was likely to miss out on all medals. If Jager had gone out and pushed the pace from the getgo, Kenyans would have fallen apart. That is the mistake he made. HE not only lost the gold but also silver.

LOL! OK, you're right, Kenyans are the overlords of the steeple yet again and we mzungu supremacists must bow down and eat crow.

Still like the guy above, I think Jager blew it. The tactics weren't right. Should have gone for broke after lap 4 and made them really work for it. Kipruto wins the sprint but would have been stretched in a faster race bc of lack of overall fitness. Jager should have done this differently and could have won.

Jäger played right to his own weakness which is he can't speed up his leg speed turnover to save his life. He should have played to his strength which is he can lope along fast for a long time better than anyone. Why didn't he do that?

However Kemboi failed to medal, and I think it was bad manners for him and Birech to join Kipruto's victory lap. They ran like 8:30, what are they doing acting like they won? It wasn't a relay.

Congrats to Kenya :)

Overrated Jager, just not good enough, he was praying everyday for kipruto's injury to get worse. They should stop overhyping the kid. LETS GO KENYA!

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I would like to see a likely doper American be aloud to compete for global medals. Not gonna happpen

repentant MZUNGU SUPREMACIST wrote:

Still like the guy above, I think Jager blew it. The tactics weren't right. Should have gone for broke after lap 4 and made them really work for it. Kipruto wins the sprint but would have been stretched in a faster race bc of lack of overall fitness. Jager should have done this differently and could have won.

That's possible. If he wanted gold or nothing that could have been the strategy. But you have to nail it absolutely correct with the lap times every time around.

Nobody was going fast today. They led off the NBC telecast talking about less than ideal temperature. Several 400 runners had their worst outings of the season and likewise the American women in the 400 hurdles who broke 53 in the trials were struggling to find 55. That shouldn't be discounted toward the steeplechase. Everyone is touting 8 minutes. That happens with multiple rabbits in a run of the mill Diamond League race. Asking Jager to do it on his own is a monumental long shot to begin with.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Jäger played right to his own weakness which is he can't speed up his leg speed turnover to save his life. He should have played to his strength which is he can lope along fast for a long time better than anyone. Why didn't he do that?

However Kemboi failed to medal, and I think it was bad manners for him and Birech to join Kipruto's victory lap. They ran like 8:30, what are they doing acting like they won? It wasn't a relay.

Totally agree with you on Jager. I had hoped he would stretch to take away the medals from the KEnyans and bring the battle to the Moroccan but he chose to allow everyone have a chance. Now he paid for it and has no one else to blame.

On Kembai and Birech joining Kipruto on victory lap, this is common on championship races. Athletes run as teammates first before they are individuals and when one of them wins a medal, the whole team celebrates.

The Kenyans are truly great, but I think the injury was actually an "injury" -

i.e. part of the psychological warfare.

yyy wrote:

The Kenyans are truly great, but I think the injury was actually an "injury" -

i.e. part of the psychological warfare.

I don't think he faked the injury. I saw him hobble off the trials myself and knew something was wrong before the media picked it up. But the psychological part came with that yarn about not having trained 40+ days. And when he told LetsRun "I'm so worried" in that video interview, I got suspicious. What Kenyan publicises his weaknesses to the media like that? He played you guys like a violin.

I never thought that Jager was a red hot favourite. 3 Kenyans = team tactics.

El Keniano: In June, you and I discussed Kenyan 800m men, Kenyan Marathoners and by default Kenyan relative weakness over the past thirty years or so in 5000m & 10000m. In your opinion, why are Kenyan males so dominate in 3000m SC? In your opinion, is it the distance, 3000m or is it special steeplechase training?

ironside wrote:

El Keniano: In June, you and I discussed Kenyan 800m men, Kenyan Marathoners and by default Kenyan relative weakness over the past thirty years or so in 5000m & 10000m. In your opinion, why are Kenyan males so dominate in 3000m SC? In your opinion, is it the distance, 3000m or is it special steeplechase training?

Weirdly, we were having this same discussion with a friend who's doing an advanced degree in sports science. He feels the steeple, with it's interruptions resembles cross country running the most, and these guys come from terrains where they're used to running over irregular surfaces through out their youth. But it doesn't explain why Ethiopians aren't good at it and Kenyans are notorious for their awful hurdling technique.

I think it's just that Kenyans, since Kip Keino back in the 60s, have inexplicably romanticised the steeple more than anyone else.