The Guardian buys 9 vials of EPO over the counter in Ethiopia for $103

cheaper still wrote:

EPO is cheaper when purchased from smugglers in the hills between Font-Romeu, France and the smuggling haven of the country of Andorra.

How much?

zxcvzxcv wrote:

This article directly states that the Berlin winner in the video admitting to doping was a female.

Yes, she would be coached by her husband and would have a weak mind. If she had a strong mind the epo wouldn't work.

opioider wrote:

where does Mo get his? how about Rupp and Jager?

So Mo, a multiple Olympic and World 5,000m & 10,000m gold medalist, runs a mediocre level cross-country race and comes 5th or 10th?? Then goes and does a long training stint in Ethiopia, then returns to competing looking totally ripped and completely invincible. Why would anyone be suspicious?

As for Rupp, Alberto's garage?

Jager? Who the heck knows?

Intriguing wrote:

But is that what runners are using these days?

Are they using SARMs? (Serious question)

DaneRauschenburg wrote:

You can buy EPO, HGH, Testosterone, IGF-1 in most pharmacies in Mexico.

SARMs are only used by pro Rugby players these days. SARMs went out of favour in 2007.

Thats why Aden trained his athletes in Ethiopia

street value wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

wow, that seems really cheap

I thought it was more than $103 for one vial, that's about what a kidney patient pays in the U.S.

We have an absolute and comparative advantage compared to Ethiopia.

Eh, no. The Ethiopians and Kenyans have the ultimate advantages; they are almost never tested out of competition, out of season. And they enjoy political protection for reasons that the cucked element of LR - which is huge - cannot comprehend.

What did they do with the 9 vials in the end?

Cheap for Westerners maybe. In a country where the per capita income is $590 per year, $103 is a fortune.

magic juice wrote:

Looks like it's nine vials of 1,000 IU each, so 9,000 IU in total.

In a US pharmacy that amount of EPO would cost around $618, so the Ethiopian price is six times cheaper. No clue about the quality, but it was most likely manufactured in India or China and is probably legitimate.

Dosing would depend on your body weight, but you could start with a 5,000 IU dose per week until you establish how well your hemoglobin level responds to EPO.

Initially, you should have your hemoglobin/hematocrit levels checked every week. The key is not to get your hematocrit level over 55, otherwise you are substantially increasing the risk of stroke or a cardiovascular event.

Of course, in most of the world, you will need an EPO prescription and a doctor's supervision to do any of this. Not to to mention a TUE.

Wow...you're really in the know on this; were you once a user of EPO? But you really shouldn't be giving Hungus any ideas.

So Hungus needs to improve his endurance?

Everyone's looking for an edge wrote:

Wow...you're really in the know on this; were you once a user of EPO?

Yes, I was.

But you really shouldn't be giving Hungus any ideas.

Apparently, he already had the idea. May as well give him enough information so he can do it as safely as possible.

What would happen if the Feds and police in other countries, maybe even the Brits right now, conducted raids of Nike athletes, Salazar, and other key groups.

Nike attorneys would prevent disclosure of the raids, and force the feds and police into years of litigation. All will be quit with the public keep in the dark.

Devil Dog wrote:

And yet somehow there are young runners that get pretty furious when you point out the undisputed fact that Dibaba is a doper.

No one seems to care when I call Ayana a doper, though she's not drop-dead-gorgeous like Dibaba.

And as for the smuggling...why smuggle something you can get over the counter, without scrutiny for ten bucks?

In the 1500m, unfortunately some may call that evening the playing field with Semanya- 4.5% performance advantage due to higher levels of testosterone vs the 3% boost from increased red blood cell count...

Import to UK and sell @ $1003? wrote:

What did they do with the 9 vials in the end?

They didn't sell them to me!

Les wrote:

Cheap for Westerners maybe. In a country where the per capita income is $590 per year, $103 is a fortune.

You ever wondered why all these athletes always have a 'Canova' looking over their shoulder at all times? (and taking a decent chunk of their winnings)

It is not hard to get EPO in the US. The barrier of a prescription or some nurse or doctor breaking the rules or a trip to Mexico is not that high. This isn't some magic secret substance found on a remote mountaintop.

Some runners--no matter what country they are from--are doping. Someone in the US/Ethiopia/Italy/Great Britain who wants to use EPO will use EPO. The big change in the past few years is that everyone realized that Ethiopians and Kenyans are no better than runners from other countries.

And I bet now that very few people dope on that track. The dopers have moved on to a new track and Ethiopia is threatening prison sentences for dopers (and 2 years for punching your coach).

Abebe Bikila was clean (although Ross Tucker probably thinks he had special springing skin injected on the bottom of his feet)

Can Ayana afford this stuff on her salary? I mean she runs one race a year....

Alactic wrote:

Can Ayana afford this stuff on her salary? I mean she runs one race a year....

Donations?