i agree with spencer wrote:
caster has more T than the average 125 douche LR douche who still lives in his moms basement
Exactly. That's what we've been trying to tell you.
i agree with spencer wrote:
caster has more T than the average 125 douche LR douche who still lives in his moms basement
Exactly. That's what we've been trying to tell you.
Caster-ation Nation wrote:
Joke is on Kate Grace. She thought she could avoid the men by running the 1500.
The women's fields will be subject to a complete Caster-ation.
Was thinking this exact thing.
I hate to say it but this sucks. I was hoping the 1500 would be caster free. Guess not. Some of these women YES ACTUAL WOMEN will miss out on a medal because of Caster. I really hope Jenny medals.
I also thought that Kate Grace moved up to the 1500 - not just because she wanted to try it but because Caster and other intersex athletes weren't in it
Kid running after kipchoge wrote:
She gonna have a lot of trouble if she dominates there. No way them white girls Simpson and Muir gonna welcome her. Stupid move by Semenya- she gonna get the spotlight on her and her testosterone again
Agreed. And can you blame them?
Caster-ation Nation wrote:
Joke is on Kate Grace. She thought she could avoid the men by running the 1500.
The women's fields will be subject to a complete Caster-ation.
+1
ljhgfghh wrote:
Women should agree to delay 5s at gun, then start racing. Let Caster run Casters race. Alone.
Brilliant. Make it 15 seconds so there is no chance that it can slow down on purpose.
You shouldn't be allowed to compete if you have hyperandrogenism. You have a "natural" advantage over your competition and are not a real woman. She has no uterus or ovaries, that doesn't sound like a "woman" to me, sounds like Bruce Jenner.
All you bigotted fools too stupid to educate yourselves to understand that human gender is more complicated then a simple male/female dichotomy are sad. Instead of attacking the person benefiting from the policy of allowing intersex persons who identify as female to compete as females you should dedicate your energies to proposing a reasonable alternative.
But you are too hate filled and dumb to see the need for a constructive solution and prefer to hide your inability to provide one behind your misdirected anger. It's pathetic.
One solution would be to eliminate women's athletic competition. Since no one can decide who is a woman. Another solution, at the opposite extreme, would be to make women and men compete together. Then no woman, intersex or otherwise, would have a chance. The current solution is to hope that among the relatively small population of intersex who identify as female there won't be any championship level athletes. Another would be to force women to undergo genetic testing and create a third category of intersex athletic competitions.
If you are so dumb that you insist on calling Semenya "he" you just shut the hell up unless you are able to propose a solution to the problem.
back woods wrote:
All you bigotted fools too stupid to educate yourselves to understand that human gender is more complicated then a simple male/female dichotomy are sad. Instead of attacking the person benefiting from the policy of allowing intersex persons who identify as female to compete as females you should dedicate your energies to proposing a reasonable alternative.
But you are too hate filled and dumb to see the need for a constructive solution and prefer to hide your inability to provide one behind your misdirected anger. It's pathetic.
One solution would be to eliminate women's athletic competition. Since no one can decide who is a woman. Another solution, at the opposite extreme, would be to make women and men compete together. Then no woman, intersex or otherwise, would have a chance. The current solution is to hope that among the relatively small population of intersex who identify as female there won't be any championship level athletes. Another would be to force women to undergo genetic testing and create a third category of intersex athletic competitions.
If you are so dumb that you insist on calling Semenya "he" you just shut the hell up unless you are able to propose a solution to the problem.
Great post. In 50 years the comments from these bumpkins will look like old clipping of people keeping blacks out of baseball and basketball.
Embarrassing dinosaurs, go make oil and get out of the way.
Interesting... wrote:
If the 1500m turns into a 800m race, like in Beijing and Rio, Caster will be the favourite. The best chance for the other competitors would be to take the race out hard from the beginning (sub 4 pace), it will be interesting to see how Caster deals with this scenario.
Among the current crop of female runners, only Muir will take it out hard.
The Kenyans and Ethiopians will sit near Semenya and hope to wind it up and/or kick her down over the last 200-600.
Simpson and Rowbury types will run "strategically," in a sit and kick for maybe 5th place.
So yes, let's hope Muir takes it to them all.
cowardice wrote:
Interesting... wrote:If the 1500m turns into a 800m race, like in Beijing and Rio, Caster will be the favourite. The best chance for the other competitors would be to take the race out hard from the beginning (sub 4 pace), it will be interesting to see how Caster deals with this scenario.
Among the current crop of female runners, only Muir will take it out hard.
The Kenyans and Ethiopians will sit near Semenya and hope to wind it up and/or kick her down over the last 200-600.
Simpson and Rowbury types will run "strategically," in a sit and kick for maybe 5th place.
So yes, let's hope Muir takes it to them all.
sit and kick for 5th place? That sounds like a flawed strategy from the get go.
backwater hicks wrote:
back woods wrote:All you bigotted fools too stupid to educate yourselves to understand that human gender is more complicated then a simple male/female dichotomy are sad. Instead of attacking the person benefiting from the policy of allowing intersex persons who identify as female to compete as females you should dedicate your energies to proposing a reasonable alternative.
But you are too hate filled and dumb to see the need for a constructive solution and prefer to hide your inability to provide one behind your misdirected anger. It's pathetic.
One solution would be to eliminate women's athletic competition. Since no one can decide who is a woman. Another solution, at the opposite extreme, would be to make women and men compete together. Then no woman, intersex or otherwise, would have a chance. The current solution is to hope that among the relatively small population of intersex who identify as female there won't be any championship level athletes. Another would be to force women to undergo genetic testing and create a third category of intersex athletic competitions.
If you are so dumb that you insist on calling Semenya "he" you just shut the hell up unless you are able to propose a solution to the problem.
Great post. In 50 years the comments from these bumpkins will look like old clipping of people keeping blacks out of baseball and basketball.
Embarrassing dinosaurs, go make oil and get out of the way.
^^Argry SJWs have arrived. Welcome!
When you said Semenya was going for the double I thought you meant the women's and men's 800.
Either the "Y" chromosome is present or it's not. Sex is binary. Gender is a political concept, designed to manipulate power.
OK, then the IAAF classifies by gender not sex.
This argument has been beaten to death over the years... but suffice to say, that even decades ago, Semenya would not have been allowed to compete in the women's division without undergoing hormone therapy. Semenya's testosterone levels give him a huge advantage over those who are truly XX. We don't need an MRI to get accurate testosterone levels. The Adam's Apple also gives him away.
This should be interesting, but don't think she has a chance in a fast 1500. If it comes down to a sprint, she's unbeatable, whether it's fair or not.
Refer to people in the gender they wish to be referred as, it's the respectable thing to do. My deepest condolences if you are unable to display a minimal amount of respect due to your narrow understanding of the human condition.
DougC wrote:
This argument has been beaten to death over the years... but suffice to say, that even decades ago, Semenya would not have been allowed to compete in the women's division without undergoing hormone therapy. Semenya's testosterone levels give him a huge advantage over those who are truly XX. We don't need an MRI to get accurate testosterone levels. The Adam's Apple also gives him away.
This is not at all true.
There was no provision even decades ago, to test testosterone levels and allow somebody to compete if they were under a thresh hold. This was a relatively recent invention.
Alactic wrote:
Either the "Y" chromosome is present or it's not. Sex is binary. Gender is a political concept, designed to manipulate power.
Sex is not binary. These decisions would all be a lot easier if it was.
Testing for drugs is also a "relatively recent invention". Should we ignore doping also?
Mr. Obvious wrote:
DougC wrote:This argument has been beaten to death over the years... but suffice to say, that even decades ago, Semenya would not have been allowed to compete in the women's division without undergoing hormone therapy. Semenya's testosterone levels give him a huge advantage over those who are truly XX. We don't need an MRI to get accurate testosterone levels. The Adam's Apple also gives him away.
This is not at all true.
There was no provision even decades ago, to test testosterone levels and allow somebody to compete if they were under a thresh hold. This was a relatively recent invention.
Des Linden: "The entire sport" has changed since she first started running Boston.
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Ryan Eiler, 3rd American man at Boston, almost out of nowhere
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon
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