Respect to the Chicago marathon organizers for stepping up their game this year. It has been a bit weak the last couple years. They must have bumped up the budget for the 40th anniversary this year, at least for the American field. I really thought that NYC would get Rupp, Derrick and probably Hasay.
Maybe this is somehow related to Nike being a sponsor for Chicago but New Balance being a major sponsor for NYRR?
It will be interesting to see who NYC gets this year with Kipchoge and Kipsang already committed to Berlin. I don't see Bekele passing up Berlin and running NY
And yes Chicago should bring back pacers at least every other year. They have a very fast course so it makes sense.
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Kid running after kipchoge wrote:
. They don't like to run fast, and honestly they can't.
You are absolutely right, 26:44 is sloooowww. What a loser, wasting his time and energy to be a 2 time Olympic medalist. -
Insecurity alert... wrote:
Kid running after kipchoge wrote:
. They don't like to run fast, and honestly they can't.
You are absolutely right, 26:44 is sloooowww. What a loser, wasting his time and energy to be a 2 time Olympic medalist.
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Insecurity alert... wrote:
Kid running after kipchoge wrote:
. They don't like to run fast, and honestly they can't.
You are absolutely right, 26:44 is sloooowww. What a loser, wasting his time and energy to be a 2 time Olympic medalist.
Seriously...
Some of the comments here are mind blowing. -
Ici wrote:
snow blow wrote:
They really need to bring rabbits back to Chicago. Last year's race was a joke. 2:11 for the win on a pancake flat course. Compare that with 2013 when Kimetto and E. Mutai duked it out for the course record, both running sub 2:04. Or 2014 when Kipchoge blazed the last few miles, dragging Kitwara and Chumba to mid 2:04. Chumba's time from that race is still the fastest 3rd place finish ever.
The US already has two slow major courses. No need to intentionally slow down one of the fastest courses in the world.
I was also disappointed when they ditched the pacers. That was really the last straw in turning Chicago into a low-tier major.
I'm not being critical it's just a difference of opinion- I prefer the "races" rather than the "time trials".
I'm 58 and remember a time before rabbits were allowed- every race was a race and time was almost irrelevant.
I enjoy watching that kind of race- fast or slow as long as it's a race. -
slo-twitch wrote:
Respect to the Chicago marathon organizers for stepping up their game this year. It has been a bit weak the last couple years. They must have bumped up the budget for the 40th anniversary this year, at least for the American field. I really thought that NYC would get Rupp, Derrick and probably Hasay. .
Finally someone said it. Everyone is commenting on race fimes as though they actually believe that's the deciding factor in picking which race to run. Running is their job and whoever pays them the most to do their job matters. -
I agree with this wrote:
KemboiKing wrote:
One could say there are already enough time trial marathons.
Rotterdam, Paris, Frankfurt are all great places to pick up a PB on a flat, fast course and a good place to go as an elite USA marathoner if you want a great PB. That's not even mentioning London, Berlin, and Tokyo as amazing opportunities for pacers to set up the premier time trials.
Real racing is much more interesting -- Chicago and Boston are so much fun to watch because anything can happen the last 10K.
I agree with this post. I wish more track races would ditch pacers too.
I'll tune in for the last 10K then. -
RuppShouldGoToBerlin wrote:
I think too Americans get paid above market value in appearance fees for running the American majors. Rupp would get paid less to run Berlin, though I think he'd run an impressive PR there. The Chicago Marathon is to World Marathon Majors as MLS is to professional soccer - the top Americans like Bradley, Altidore, and Dempsey get paid a ton more to play in MLS than they were getting paid in the world's best leagues.
I'm not sure you understand what "market value" means. If a US marathon wants to pay a US runner more than a German or British marathon wants to pay a US runner, that's the market dictating the appearance fee. -
RuppShouldGoToBerlin wrote:
I think too Americans get paid above market value in appearance fees for running the American majors. Rupp would get paid less to run Berlin, though I think he'd run an impressive PR there. The Chicago Marathon is to World Marathon Majors as MLS is to professional soccer - the top Americans like Bradley, Altidore, and Dempsey get paid a ton more to play in MLS than they were getting paid in the world's best leagues.
I'm not sure you understand what "market value" means. If a US marathon wants to pay a US runner more than a German or British marathon wants to pay a US runner, that's the market dictating the appearance fee.[/quote]
Or perhaps ... If a US marathon wants to pay a US runner more than a German or British marathon wants to pay a US runner, that's the US market dictating the US runners appearance fees. -
Cojonudo wrote:
RuppShouldGoToBerlin wrote:
I think too Americans get paid above market value in appearance fees for running the American majors. Rupp would get paid less to run Berlin, though I think he'd run an impressive PR there. The Chicago Marathon is to World Marathon Majors as MLS is to professional soccer - the top Americans like Bradley, Altidore, and Dempsey get paid a ton more to play in MLS than they were getting paid in the world's best leagues.
I'm not sure you understand what "market value" means. If a US marathon wants to pay a US runner more than a German or British marathon wants to pay a US runner, that's the market dictating the appearance fee.
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I meant.. Or perhaps ... If a US marathon wants to pay a US runner more than a German or British marathon wants to pay a US runner, that's the US market dictating the US runners appearance fees in US races. -
Karl Hungus wrote:
Coffee Black wrote:
Karl Hungus wrote:
Droddy!!!
From what I understand Droddy has just resumed training after a linger injury...hopefully he has a good debut...but it's going to have to be on minimal training
We're going to try to hand him a can of beer at mile 26.
Great idea! Get him DQ'd right before the finish. -
rojo wrote:
Here are the full elite fields for Americnas.
Galen Rupp 2:09:58 (Boston, 2017)
Luke Puskedra 2:10:24 (Chicago, 2015)
Jeffrey Eggleston 2:10:52 (Gold Coast, AUS 2014)
Aaron Braun 2:12:54 (Houston, 2015)
Diego Estrada 2:13:56 (Chicago, 2016)
Andrew Bumbalough 2:13:58 (Tokyo, 2017)
Sam Chelanga - NA
Chris Derrick - NA
Noah Droddy - NA
Jordan Hasay 2:23:00 (Boston, 2017)
Becky Wade 2:30:41 (Sacramento, 2013)
Dot McMahan 2:31:48 (Duluth, 2011)
Sarah Crouch 2:32:44 (Chicago, 2014)
Alia Gray 2:34:00 (Chicago, 2016)
Michelle Lilienthal 2:34:50 (St. Paul, 2013)
Danna Herrick 2:34:53 (Boston, 2017)
Kristen Heckert 2:39:37 (Chicago, 2016)
Not one American female that finished in the top 8 at the Olympic Trials. WHY? Pave the way for Hasay. Look at the years of the pb's of the field. No one within 10 minutes over the past 4 years.
No Ritz or Meb or Ward or Curtis or Abdi or Biwott. Pave the way for Rupp.
This is a big fat Nike joke. -
Laughable for Competition wrote:
Not one American female that finished in the top 8 at the Olympic Trials. WHY? Pave the way for Hasay. Look at the years of the pb's of the field. No one within 10 minutes over the past 4 years.
No Ritz or Meb or Ward or Curtis or Abdi or Biwott. Pave the way for Rupp.
This is a big fat Nike joke.
Imagine that there is another big, rich, American marathon the same season. Would everybody go to only one of the races and nobody to the other one? -
Really - there are not that many US runners that have shown that they can run Hasay's 2:23:00. Only Molly Huddle for sure can, maybe Shalane Flanagan (if healthy), Cragg (probably), Desi Linden (if she has a great day), Kara Goucher (not anymore), Sara Hall (love her - but no), Neely Spence-Gracy (possibly with a breakthru).
Possible wildcard to run with Hasay would be Emily Sisson who has yet to run a marathon - but I'm willing to bet she will only debut in a race that includes Molly.
It very well could be that Chicago tried to get Huddle and/or Sisson, but perhaps NYC (NB) outbid Chicago for their appearance.
We have to wait to see what the Chicago ladies field looks like before saying that Chicago/Nike is "paving the way" for Rupp and Hasay. I would hope that they will have at least 5 international males with PBs better than Rupp, and at least 3 international females with PBs better than Hasay. -
USAladiesComp wrote:
Really - there are not that many US runners that have shown that they can run Hasay's 2:23:00. Only Molly Huddle for sure can, maybe Shalane Flanagan (if healthy), Cragg (probably), Desi Linden (if she has a great day), Kara Goucher (not anymore), Sara Hall (love her - but no), Neely Spence-Gracy (possibly with a breakthru).
Possible wildcard to run with Hasay would be Emily Sisson who has yet to run a marathon - but I'm willing to bet she will only debut in a race that includes Molly.
It very well could be that Chicago tried to get Huddle and/or Sisson, but perhaps NYC (NB) outbid Chicago for their appearance.
We have to wait to see what the Chicago ladies field looks like before saying that Chicago/Nike is "paving the way" for Rupp and Hasay. I would hope that they will have at least 5 international males with PBs better than Rupp, and at least 3 international females with PBs better than Hasay.
I am more than willing to bet that they will sign some internationals that have PB's from 2 years or more ago. PAVE THE WAY. -
rojo wrote:
Here are the full elite fields for Americnas.
Galen Rupp 2:09:58 (Boston, 2017)
Luke Puskedra 2:10:24 (Chicago, 2015)
Jeffrey Eggleston 2:10:52 (Gold Coast, AUS 2014)
Aaron Braun 2:12:54 (Houston, 2015)
Diego Estrada 2:13:56 (Chicago, 2016)
Andrew Bumbalough 2:13:58 (Tokyo, 2017)
Sam Chelanga - NA
Chris Derrick - NA
Noah Droddy - NA
Jordan Hasay 2:23:00 (Boston, 2017)
Becky Wade 2:30:41 (Sacramento, 2013)
Dot McMahan 2:31:48 (Duluth, 2011)
Sarah Crouch 2:32:44 (Chicago, 2014)
Alia Gray 2:34:00 (Chicago, 2016)
Michelle Lilienthal 2:34:50 (St. Paul, 2013)
Danna Herrick 2:34:53 (Boston, 2017)
Kristen Heckert 2:39:37 (Chicago, 2016)
2017 Chicago marathon predictions:
Galen Rupp: 2:07
Sam Chelanga: 2:08
Diego Estrada: 2:08
Chris Derrick: 2:14
Jeffrey Eggleston: [email protected]
Andrew Bumbalough: [email protected]
Noah Droddy: [email protected]
Aaron Braun: [email protected]
Luke Puskedra: DNS due to participate Tussey 50mi on the same date -
295murase wrote:
rojo wrote:
Here are the full elite fields for Americnas.
Galen Rupp 2:09:58 (Boston, 2017)
Luke Puskedra 2:10:24 (Chicago, 2015)
Jeffrey Eggleston 2:10:52 (Gold Coast, AUS 2014)
Aaron Braun 2:12:54 (Houston, 2015)
Diego Estrada 2:13:56 (Chicago, 2016)
Andrew Bumbalough 2:13:58 (Tokyo, 2017)
Sam Chelanga - NA
Chris Derrick - NA
Noah Droddy - NA
Jordan Hasay 2:23:00 (Boston, 2017)
Becky Wade 2:30:41 (Sacramento, 2013)
Dot McMahan 2:31:48 (Duluth, 2011)
Sarah Crouch 2:32:44 (Chicago, 2014)
Alia Gray 2:34:00 (Chicago, 2016)
Michelle Lilienthal 2:34:50 (St. Paul, 2013)
Danna Herrick 2:34:53 (Boston, 2017)
Kristen Heckert 2:39:37 (Chicago, 2016)
2017 Chicago marathon predictions:
Galen Rupp: 2:07
Sam Chelanga: 2:08
Diego Estrada: 2:08
Chris Derrick: 2:14
Jeffrey Eggleston: [email protected]
Andrew Bumbalough: [email protected]
Noah Droddy: [email protected]
Aaron Braun: [email protected]
Luke Puskedra: DNS due to participate Tussey 50mi on the same date
Mine:
Rupp 2:09
Chelanga 2:10
Derrick 2:11
Bumbi 2:12
