60 yr old doper nailed

So what does a ban at the amateur level entail? Can McPherson enter events that are not USATF sanctioned/certified? Or is he blackballed from most any event where his name could be flagged upon any registration process?

All of the events I do are just local mocal stuff - mostly for charities where there's no drug testing. I imagine he could compete in those kind of events where many participates walk the course?

It means a ban on participation in USATF events...big whoop. Lance was doing various trail races etc. while serving his ban.

4 yr ban for amateurs means? wrote:

So what does a ban at the amateur level entail? Can McPherson enter events that are not USATF sanctioned/certified? Or is he blackballed from most any event where his name could be flagged upon any registration process?

All of the events I do are just local mocal stuff - mostly for charities where there's no drug testing. I imagine he could compete in those kind of events where many participates walk the course?

Scott McPherson of Lubbock, Texas, spoke to me at length Wednesday and briefly Friday about his much-covered USADA 4-year doping ban.

It's apparently his first public response to the case.

http://timesofsandiego.com/sports/2017/07/28/race-walker-60-under-doping-ban-blames-testers-or-tainted-lotion/

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Strange case this is on two fronts.

USADA never says what the reason was to test a lone participate in an event that didn’t set any records (e.g., WR, NR, MR, WL). Was he targeted for some reason, or does USADA have a certain number of random tests to use anyway they see fit?

I believe the CIR test was positive for synthetic testosterone? (exogenous androgenic anabolic steroid (AAS) and/or its metabolites). If it was for an anabolic steroid usually it's identified, as USADA/WADA has in the past announced elites testing positive for anabolic steroids and identifying the specific type (e.g., Stanozolol, Oxandrolone, Turinabolan, etc.) Again, USADA doesn't provide any specifics.

The most weird aspect: McPherson said he leaned into some "goop" on the bleachers that was identified as hand lotion by someone. Does common OTC hand lotions contain any testosterone or steroid? Testesterone creams are usually prescription only and are not present in common hand lotions. Most OTC anti-inflammatory creams/ointments contain glucocorticoids & cortisone. And some anti-itch creams contain the ban substance "Clostebol." Could Clostebol trigger a CIR positive without being identified by USADA? What substance could be in that hand lotion that would trigger an AAS positive?

Very strange case on both fronts 🤔

This guy's claim that USATF screwed up the specimen collection needs to be INVESTIGATED. Not sure who would or could look into this but pretty scary if what he said is true.

Oops this goes with the post above

He said his paperwork showed two samples, but “it was actually three. There were two partials and a full. I had my distance glasses on. You know, when you’re 60, you can’t see as close. [The tester] said: Sign this and sign that. It was very chaotic in that room. There was probably maybe seven or eight athletes as well as myself. All these partial samples,” perhaps five or six.

He said he didn’t keep track of the partials because he’d gone back the bathroom.

“The one sample wasn’t enough, but then he started willy-nilly dumping in two others,” McPherson said Wednesday. “I have no idea.” (As a result of the extra time in doping control, he missed his afternoon flight home, he said, not getting back until midnight.)

exthrower wrote:

When a person starts taking steroids, they also become a liar...

This is about USATF and how they are running the collection protocol.

Yea the guy might be a liar. Dennis Rader was a Deacon in a church .... that is how they caught the guy:

Charlie wrote:

This guy's claim that USATF screwed up the specimen collection needs to be INVESTIGATED. Not sure who would or could look into this but pretty scary if what he said is true.

That's a fair point but didn’t McPherson say he doesn't want to appeal because of the expense of an attorney? And I don’t believe he ever requested the "B" sample to checked either...so maybe it's not that big of a deal to him.

exthrower wrote:

When a person starts taking steroids, they also become a liar...

Huh? What would his reason be to lie in a case like this. Most of the masters/seniors testing positive for PEDs have admitted to it saying they were taking the substance under a doctor's care (e.g., low-T therapy) and didn’t know about, or forgot to get a TUE, and so forth. The elites have so much more at stake with losing big sponsorship $$$ that they are the ones with the "phoney boloney" stories to save their sponsorship dough & skin...who could have imagined. 😁

Very Strange Case wrote:

Charlie wrote:

This guy's claim that USATF screwed up the specimen collection needs to be INVESTIGATED. Not sure who would or could look into this but pretty scary if what he said is true.

That's a fair point but didn’t McPherson say he doesn't want to appeal because of the expense of an attorney? And I don’t believe he ever requested the "B" sample to checked either...so maybe it's not that big of a deal to him.

This is not about McPherson. The big deal is about USATF SCREWING UP COLLECTIONS. You will understand my point if/when you gotta pee in the cup and they have some real bozos doing the collecting.

The guy takes up as a hobby and flies to competitions ?

I think that's fairly serious about the sport .

The Loser Cheated in a One Man Race!!!

Charlie wrote:

This is not about McPherson. The big deal is about USATF SCREWING UP COLLECTIONS. You will understand my point if/when you gotta pee in the cup and they have some real bozos doing the collecting.

Sorry Charlie...but it is about McPherson. Didn’t you read USADA's response to those allegations. From the "Times of San Diego" article:

"A USADA spokeswoman disputed McPherson’s accounts and allegations.

USADA says McPherson’s claim of “chaos” in the testing room “is simply not accurate. All samples of the athletes collected that day were done in strict accordance with the established international standards and USADA’s policies to ensure the integrity of the collection and comfort of the athletes.”

Though this was a masters event, “all of the same gold-standard processes were in place and followed like our year-round elite Olympic program,” she said.

In fact, USADA said McPherson never offered the “chaos” contention in the months leading up to the sanction.

“He also had the right to raise any and all of his complaints to independent (not affiliated with USADA) judges, and he chose not to,” said USADA, which also insisted that “all sample kits are labeled, and the partial sample kits are identified through a ‘partial kit number.’”

USADA, which says it found no other positive drug samples at the New Mexico meet, says McPherson, as all athletes, had the right to challenge the four-year ban by going before independent arbitrators.

“In the notice letter and several subsequent letters we sent to Mr. McPherson, we explained his rights including his right to contest the matter to independent judges,” USADA told Times of San Diego. “He chose not to do this.”

So, that's USADA response - and l wasn't there and neither were you. Maybe some of the other competitors who were tested that day could give their perspective.

Bottomline: McPherson can appeal the 4 yr ban by presenting his case to independent arbitrators. Mr. Pizza, the sprinter who tested for positive for T at the 2015 Nationals and was intially handed a 4 yr ban, did exactly that.

hobby what ? wrote:

The guy takes up as a hobby and flies to competitions ?

I think that's fairly serious about the sport .

McPherson didn’t learn of his positive test until he and his wife, Tonya, returned home from the late March World Masters Athletics Indoor Championships in Daegu, South Korea. (He was a distant last in the 3,000-meter walk and fifth out of eight in the 10K walk.)

But he said in a phone interview: “I was sitting in these bleachers and my hand touches this gob of lotion [as he leaned back to support himself] — it was beige. And the lady next to me said it’s only hand lotion, so I rubbed it in.”

It turns out that the lady next to him with the gob of lotion was Coach Alberto Salazar.

Bottomline USATF's SAMPLE COLLECTION AND CHAIN OF CUSTODY PROCEDURES NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT BY AN INDEPENDENT SOURCE. As well as how they can document things were done correctly. Bottom line is it comes down he said she said which sucks.

The guys says they had half filled bottles setting from various athletes in the same area this is just nutz

If this is what USATF says they follow it should be pretty easy to question the DCO/Chaperones as well as the athletes tested to see what really went on.

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/2016-09-30_-_isti_final_january_2017.pdf

racewalkers dope a lot wrote:

But he said in a phone interview: “I was sitting in these bleachers and my hand touches this gob of lotion [as he leaned back to support himself] — it was beige. And the lady next to me said it’s only hand lotion, so I rubbed it in.”

It turns out that the lady next to him with the gob of lotion was Coach Alberto Salazar.

If you're competing at a big-time master's event where USADA is conducting drug tests, why would any competitor rub an unkown substance on themselves. If I accidentally leaned on some goop or something, I'd be washing that crap off ASAP - it could be full of something narly. 😳

7.4.6 At the conclusion of the Sample Collection Session the Athlete and

DCO shall sign appropriate documentation to indicate their satisfaction that

the documentation accurately reflects the details of the Athlete’s Sample

Collection Session, including any concerns expressed by the Athlete. The

Athlete’s representative (if any) and the Athlete shall both sign the

documentation if the Athlete is a Minor. Other persons present who had a

formal role during the Athlete’s Sample Collection Session may sign the

documentation as a witness of the proceedings.

7.4.7 The DCO shall provide the Athlete with a copy of the records of the

Sample Collection Session that have been signed by the Athlete.

Knowledge is power my friends. I suggest you read carefully as to what they are supposed to do and what you can do if there is any hint of them screwing things up.

Think This One Through wrote:

racewalkers dope a lot wrote:

But he said in a phone interview: “I was sitting in these bleachers and my hand touches this gob of lotion [as he leaned back to support himself] — it was beige. And the lady next to me said it’s only hand lotion, so I rubbed it in.”

It turns out that the lady next to him with the gob of lotion was Coach Alberto Salazar.

If you're competing at a big-time master's event where USADA is conducting drug tests, why would any competitor rub an unkown substance on themselves. If I accidentally leaned on some goop or something, I'd be washing that crap off ASAP - it could be full of something narly. 😳

This is why Coach Alberto did his "Possible Sabotage of Galen Rupp with Androgel" experiments, which had a total of two experimental subjects (Alberto's two sons) in the experiments. Alberto wanted to check to see if the application of 4 squirts (5 grams containing 50 mg. of testosterone) of a 1% testosterone gel to Galen Rupp (by sabotage) could cause the T/E ratio to go above the 4:1 ratio.

It did not go above the 4:1 ratio in his experiments.

Doping is very common in racewalkers.

The Italian Alex Schwazer will be back in the year 2024.

That will be fun.