60 yr old doper nailed

Getting old is tough..... wrote:

As a 52 year old who is wrecked for 3 days after a long run, I certainly wouldn't want to be competing against somebody doping who probably only needs one day to recover like I could when I was in my 30s.

I think that the typical 52 y.o.'s quality of life is fine and he does not need anti aging meds. However, at 60 (maybe even 55), things are different

I think that it is a lot more time important to keep a high quality of life for as long as possible, then to keep following arbitrary rules made for 30 y.o. when you are 60.

No 60 y.o. will make it to the Olympics, no matter how much meds he takes.

smarter is sll wrote:

As a 38 year-old breaking his college PRs while taking literally no pills whatsoever, I'm telling you how wrong you are.

Then put up your college PRs and show what your times are now. However, you could make up your times and your age, and all at, and who would know (or care) if it's even real. It's all discussion forum BS...nothing new there.

Stinking up the joint wrote:

smarter is sll wrote:

As a 38 year-old breaking his college PRs while taking literally no pills whatsoever, I'm telling you how wrong you are.

Then put up your college PRs and show what your times are now. However, you could make up your times and your age, and all at, and who would know (or care) if it's even real. It's all discussion forum BS...nothing new there.

There is nothing particulalry remarkable about a person being faster at 38 than they were in college.

The dude just thinks 38 is the same as 55. That's where he is in error.

60 yr olds think the same things as 30 year olds. They work hard to achieve at their level and if someone who beats them is outed for doping, they would initially feel cheated. But the best thing is to run for yourself, if you run to your potential you will feel rewarded. Who cares if they can run like a 40 yr. old at 60 if they dope - its not them that does it but a little demon in a pill box. Dopers will never know what their potential at a given age was. They will never know running for what it truly is. They are not to be scorned but pitied.

I live on the east coast wrote:

The running joke in my community is where are the 55+ year olds who aren't doping. The top runners in that age group are running the same, if not better than they were at 45. 20 years ago this phenomenon did not exist. It's pretty obvious what's going on.

What do you suspect them of taking? EPO? HGH? Testosterone? If it's T, maybe they're going the Low-T route with a legal prescription and all. And there might be needed prescription medications involved. Call it TUEs...no surprises there (and the pros get them all the time...lol)

you have no life wrote:

Whew, good thing we nailed him, huh? We can all sleep a little safer tonight!

We can all sleep walk safe tonight

smarter is sll wrote:

I live on the east coast wrote:

The running joke in my community is where are the 55+ year olds who aren't doping. The top runners in that age group are running the same, if not better than they were at 45. 20 years ago this phenomenon did not exist. It's pretty obvious what's going on.

Yes, it is obvious what's going on. Little turds like you are getting jealous.

As a 38 year-old breaking his college PRs while taking literally no pills whatsoever, I'm telling you how wrong you are.

Check back with us in 17 years and let us know how that's going.

I live on the east coast wrote:

smarter is sll wrote:

Yes, it is obvious what's going on. Little turds like you are getting jealous.

As a 38 year-old breaking his college PRs while taking literally no pills whatsoever, I'm telling you how wrong you are.

Check back with us in 17 years and let us know how that's going.

Lots of folks in their 40's and 50's running close to PRs if they either started running later in life or never really trained seriously when they were younger. I'm 55 and not running PRs but still not too far from PRs. Staying motivated is huge.

Bartimoran wrote:

Lots of folks in their 40's and 50's running close to PRs if they either started running later in life or never really trained seriously when they were younger. I'm 55 and not running PRs but still not too far from PRs. Staying motivated is huge.

I'm not referring to people who started later in life or didn't "try hard" in the past.

This is just a symptom of all the male Boomers out there who think they should never get old or die. It is ridiculously simple to get prescriptions for testosterone or HGH for what are actually just normal signs of aging.

This from a 57-year-old who takes fish oil as his magic pill.

That's how I see it too. People getting out of college and starting their families and careers and not really working out too strictly. Then the career is settling in and the kids don't need every second of their day and now a newly dedicated athlete has time to put in more training. May hook up with a group and get serious and eventually work themselves into good shape and start scaring all the old timers in the region. Seen it happen several times.

"Someone spiked my Ensure."

Turned 60 this year, celebrated with my fastest half marathon yet (former miler, started with the half marathon at age 57).

Fun stuff, but let's face it, a 13-mile training run in '77 when I was 20 would typically come a good 15 - 20 minutes faster. I still enjoy running and competing, but prefer fruits, veggies, grains, legumes, seeds, nuts and a small amount of animal protein to dope.

Unless it's SKUNK BUDS, of course!

Bartimoran wrote:

Lots of folks in their 40's and 50's running close to PRs if they either started running later in life or never really trained seriously when they were younger. I'm 55 and not running PRs but still not too far from PRs. Staying motivated is huge.

Not just motivation, but staying healthy. I'm in my late 50s and have all the motivation in the world, but injuries started to creep up over the last several years resulting in significant downtime. I know some fast cats here locally in my age group that have a very low injury history and can train consistently like a madman without any downtime year after year. So, there's a genetic component even as you age...who could have imagined. Not everyone can have the good genetics & and the very light BMIs of some of these incredibly fast Grand Masters...nothing new there.

Getting old is tough..... wrote:

As a 52 year old who is wrecked for 3 days after a long run, I certainly wouldn't want to be competing against somebody doping who probably only needs one day to recover like I could when I was in my 30s.

I am just like you.

Albeit I don't train or compete anymore, but I always found it strange when certain guys I have beaten for years are suddenly beating me and their response is training harder. When you have been running for years, how can you start running faster as you get older. The fact is, at 50+, you can only train but so much before it has a negative impact. Btw, taking anti-aging products is doping.

It's a 60 year old. It's race WALKing.Why should this be on the front page of "letsRUN"?

Ultradude wrote:

A 60 yr old race walker was nailed by USADA for steroids. How is this not on the front page? ...

TrackCoach wrote:

Btw, taking anti-aging products is doping.

Depends on the product. If it's not on the WADA prohibited substance list, it is not doping.

not as smarter as you think wrote:

smarter is sll wrote:

Yes, it is obvious what's going on. Little turds like you are getting jealous.

As a 38 year-old breaking his college PRs while taking literally no pills whatsoever, I'm telling you how wrong you are.

You clearly have no idea what is going to happen to you over the next 20 years. The difference between 18 and 38 is miniscule - and in some cases can be made up for by training - compared to the difference between 38 and 58. Why would you even think you have a clue?

There are professional athletes in all sports at 38, and none at 58. Golf doesn't count.

I didn't say I'd still be running PRs at 58, genius. I said little turds are getting jealous. Depending on the starting point, maintaining from 45 to 55 is nothing.

Stinking up the joint wrote:

smarter is sll wrote:

As a 38 year-old breaking his college PRs while taking literally no pills whatsoever, I'm telling you how wrong you are.

Then put up your college PRs and show what your times are now. However, you could make up your times and your age, and all at, and who would know (or care) if it's even real. It's all discussion forum BS...nothing new there.

And you are...?