Andrew Hunter 3:36.77 in Padova

He would have just finished freshman year moron, you people on here are so obsessed with this age thing it's unbelievable

And to the person below he's faster than the 16 year old from Norway....

Hunter might have a better professional career than Cheserek. It's very possible.

Gahshshah wrote:

Yes, that's a PR. That's only 0.27 seconds slower than Cheserek PB now.

Clearly, going pro was the right decision for him.

not important wrote:

The 1500m wasn't a Diamond League event.

The 1500m was a Diamond League event:

Lapped Miler wrote:

The 1500m was a Diamond League event:

https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-diamond-league/meeting-international-mohammed-vi-dathletisme-6045/results/men/1500-metres/final/result#resultheader

OK, I stand corrected. Not a DL event today, even though it was a DL meet.

Lapped Miler wrote:

For what it's worth -- and we all know that a final time isn't a measure of the talent or the nature of a particular competition (such as in the Olympic 1500m final last year) -- Drew's 3rd place 3:36.77 today would have also placed him 3rd in the Diamond League 1500m in Rabat.

Not a Diamond League 1500m in Rabat

Is there a bigger chart of all-time best 1500s?

Does Nick willis still not have the world standard?

King Hunter wrote:

Hunter might have a better professional career than Cheserek. It's very possible.

Gahshshah wrote:

Yes, that's a PR. That's only 0.27 seconds slower than Cheserek PB now.

Clearly, going pro was the right decision for him.

I would say that up to now, he has.

Ches is a "no show" at this point.

Also, Ches' 3:36.50 is from 2014 (more than 3 years ago), so I'm not sure what time he could run now. His outdoor season was less than stellar and it seems like he has now packed it in for the season.

Anyone find a video of the race?

Bjb19 wrote:

old man at a young age wrote:

Too bad he was old for high school. He would be the #2 All time US Junior if he was born 4 months later.

3:36.1 Jim Ryun (Kansas) 07/17/66

3:37.5 Tom Byers (Ohio St) 07/24/74

3:37.9 ————Byers 06/22/74

3:38.26 Alan Webb (Virginia HS) 05/27/01

3:38.50 ————Webb 06/23/01

3:39.00 German Fernandez (Oklahoma St) 06/13/09

3:39.0 ————Ryun (Kansas HS) 06/28/64

3:39.3 ————Ryun 06/04/66

3:39.8 ————Byers 06/28/74

3:40.49 John Trautmann (Georgetown) 05/30/87

I dont know why people on here insist he was old for a high schooler. He has a September birthday. He turned 18 a month into his senior year.

Because most of the people on letsrun were nerdy underdeveloped kids who graduated at 17 and were only good at long distance running, or at least they say they were good, when their high school PRs were like 4:32, 9:51 and like a 16:31 road 5k

Go to college, he is a Pro , that ain't squat.

Kiddiidyyd wrote:

King Hunter wrote:

Hunter might have a better professional career than Cheserek. It's very possible.

I would say that up to now, he has.

Ches is a "no show" at this point.

Also, Ches' 3:36.50 is from 2014 (more than 3 years ago), so I'm not sure what time he could run now. His outdoor season was less than stellar and it seems like he has now packed it in for the season.

Chez ran a 3:33 high equivalent indoors (3:52.01 mile). When Chez is healthy, Hunter is not even the same class as him. Even when Chez was injured, he still ran 13:24 at PJ then won 10k at PAC 12's.

3:52 is not equivalent to 3:33. 3:52 is more like 3:35. If Drew Hunter held the same pace for a full mile, it'd be a 3:52.4. I'd say his performance today is worth a 3:53 mile.

Oh my god

I think people are focusing too much on the time. Hunter was damn close to getting the win. He almost beat Souleiman! He beat the Olympic bronze medalist (silver if you discount Makhloufi, gold if you discount Centro, although as an American I'm only upgrading him to silver)! Hunter is first and foremost a racer, not a time trialer. He's not nearly as refined as Centro, and may never get there. But he's always going to pull out his best performances when he's contending for the win, as he has since he was a sophomore in high school, when he PRed by 20 seconds in the 3k to outkick Justyn Knight at Penn Relays.

This is the first result since that day to indicate that maybe Knight won't have the last laugh.

He ran an 8:42 full 2 miles as a junior, crushed everyone in the footlocker nationals race his senior year, ran 14:20 in xc senior year, and he has stellar speed. With this combination I think that he could end up being a sub 13 5k guy. He has the potential to get the american record in that when his time comes, but I seriously doubt that he could get the AR in the 1500m. With his speed and strength than he could win championship races off of the kick, and run fast PR's also. In the 1500 he would need much better closing speed to win 1500's at championship style races.

But... wrote:

Are we so sure that his future lies in the 5000? What has he ever showed to suggest that it is, other than ungainly form and unproven top-end speed (1:48 as a high schooler after a single serious attempt isn't exactly awful)? He's raced 3000s fairly frequently and hasn't run relatively better than his 1500/mile results. He's only raced a 5000 once. Granted, he ran a tactical 13:50, but even so, he only close in about 59, hardly evidence that the race was incredibly easy for him.

In any event, 3:36 as a 19 y/o is a fantastic result. That he beat Nick Willis and lost to Souleiman by .02 is even better. I hope and expect Hunter to have a successful career. I'm just not so sure it's going to be in the 5000.

And Centro ran 8:42 full 2 miles and can't break 13:20 as an Olympic gold medalist pro. Or more accurately, since he became an Olympic gold medalist he can't break 13:49. Hunter beat Philip Rocha by 7 seconds at Footlocker nationals. He opened up a big lead and then got tired. His actual time wasn't anything impressive. People on the forums thought that meant he couldn't break 4 that year. Nope: he ran sub-4 3 times before he graduated high school, ran 7:59, and ran 1:48. Hunter has shown more prowess on the track than the xc course, and--up to a point, obviously--is better as the distance gets shorter.Look, he may be a good 5k guy eventually, but you're arguing he might break the American record? He's 57 seconds away! At this age, Sean McGorty was only 40 seconds. GF (the Fernandez one) was only 30 and GF (the Fisher one) fewer than 40.He's clearly on the right path and I'm pumped to watch his success. I'm not convinced it'll be in the form of 12.5 lap races though.

Only six seconds faster than Grant Fisher's PR. Tinman is ruining the boy.

Gotta bee wrote:

old man at a young age wrote:

Too bad he was old for high school. He would be the #2 All time US Junior if he was born 4 months later.

You realize it's not even possible to be 4 month old in highschool?

I think you mean negative four months old.