Sydney McLaughlin on the cover of Sports Illustrated

Average Driver at Best wrote:

As for the baseballer, I don't think I is a real sport if you get extra points just for being left handed.

You obviously do not know the sport.

Without knowledge like being left handed, just how do you think we would know the batter's hitting average, after the all-star break, while hitting from the #3 slot in the order, against left handers, in the second game of a twilight double header, on the road, following a 6 game homestand, against a starting pitcher, who's pitch count is above 60, on two days rest, with the count 3-1,.....sorry....I got sidetracked with important information that helps the sport to live and breathe.

George rr wrote:

key wrote:

I would have sworn she was black, or at least biracial. You sure about that "white" label?

Not sure what this guy is smoking, but Syd the kid is most definitely black.

"definitely back"?

It seems to me if any American isn't 100% white ( whatever that means) then they are black.

But, if they are not 100% black they are still black.

What 's that all about?

The composition of the cover photo is amazing. McL's hair is aligned with the pitcher's glove. Their eyes are aligned, although McL's are are one millimeter above his. The raised legs. Her arms are at right angles; his are pointing directly upward. His right foot is on the same level as her right shoulder. She's got a bright, Wheaties-style grin; he's serious, mysterious. Just superb.

https://www.si.com/more-sports/2017/07/12/mackenzie-gore-sydney-mclaughlin-si-cover

key wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

She is very marketable, a LIKELY Future World Record Holder at 400 hurdles, and maybe the Woman Who breaks Marita Koch's 47.60 World Record (Which is a very hard record to break) Being White in a sport dominated by Black Females now (though both the 400 hurdles and 400 flat World Records are held by White Woman) immensely increases her marketability

I would have sworn she was black, or at least biracial. You sure about that "white" label?

She certainly appears to be biracial. Her father is black. Hard to find information about her mother, Mary McLaughlin.

portsea57 wrote:

George rr wrote:

Not sure what this guy is smoking, but Syd the kid is most definitely black.

"definitely back"?

It seems to me if any American isn't 100% white ( whatever that means) then they are black.

But, if they are not 100% black they are still black.

What 's that all about?

It's called the one-drop rule or the rule of hypodescent. Look it up. It traces back to slavery--slaveowners wanted to make sure that when they had sex with their female slaves and a child was produced, that child was still their slave-property for life. The one-drop rule continued into the segregation era. If somebody had one provable black ancestor as far back as the great-grandparents' (or great-great-grandparents'??) generation, they were considered "black" and suffered second class citizenship. One-eighth black--seven white great-grandprents, one black great-grandparent was called an octaroon.

Average Driver at Best wrote:

As for the baseballer, I don't think I is a real sport if you get extra points just for being left handed.

I wasn't aware the rules of baseball gave left-handed pitchers any sort of advantage. If there weren't any left-handed hitters, they would be at a disadvantage.

KudzuRunner wrote:

portsea57 wrote:

"definitely back"?

It seems to me if any American isn't 100% white ( whatever that means) then they are black.

But, if they are not 100% black they are still black.

What 's that all about?

It's called the one-drop rule or the rule of hypodescent. Look it up. It traces back to slavery--slaveowners wanted to make sure that when they had sex with their female slaves and a child was produced, that child was still their slave-property for life. The one-drop rule continued into the segregation era. If somebody had one provable black ancestor as far back as the great-grandparents' (or great-great-grandparents'??) generation, they were considered "black" and suffered second class citizenship. One-eighth black--seven white great-grandprents, one black great-grandparent was called an octaroon.

+100 I thought this was in every high school history class.

Boogieman wrote:

KudzuRunner wrote:

It's called the one-drop rule or the rule of hypodescent. Look it up. It traces back to slavery--slaveowners wanted to make sure that when they had sex with their female slaves and a child was produced, that child was still their slave-property for life. The one-drop rule continued into the segregation era. If somebody had one provable black ancestor as far back as the great-grandparents' (or great-great-grandparents'??) generation, they were considered "black" and suffered second class citizenship. One-eighth black--seven white great-grandprents, one black great-grandparent was called an octaroon.

+100 I thought this was in every high school history class.

Should reverse the rule cuz racism, yo. If only 1 drop white they are white.

Boogieman wrote:

+100 I thought this was in every high school history class.

Umm no, just the Afrocentric ones that claim the Egyptians were black.

The one drop rule was applied in most states by 1910. However, it was much more complex than that. Often, it was legally applied as some specific fraction of ancestry. There were 1/2, 1/4 ('quadroon'), 1/8 ('octoroon'), and I think, even 1/16 rules that defined a person as black with that proportion of racial ancestry. However, the older rule, which the Supreme Court asserted around 1810, was after the manner of the mother, meaning that if the mother was white, the child was white, and could not be a slave, but if the mother was black, the child was black, and could be a slave. Today, there are electoral/political/monetary/pride reasons for continuing the one drop rule. Note that as Obama was building his name and even well into his first campaign for president, the story he had told was of a man of mixed race, half black, half white, but before the South Carolina primary, Bill Clinton, frustrated that Hillary wasn't getting much traction, racialized the contest through some comments about the black community, and from that point on, the media has identified Obama as black. An interesting case of this notion's persistence, part of our simplistic either-or mentality, is 6'10" Isaiah Hartenstein, just drafted in the 2nd round by the Rockets. He has a black American father and a white German mother. He went back to Germany at age 13, I think, and so didn't go through our college system. He appears white and so when he and his father would go around in Germany, people wouldn't believe they were related. But they were so big nobody ever bothered them about it. At any rate, Hartenstein says that nobody would believe that he is black. And the article in the Undefeated by Marc Spears repeatedly identified him as black. So, the assumption is again that any black ancestry identifies you as black. Given the choice by your ambiguous appearance and mixed parentage, you could of course identify as either race to the extent that society did not then call you a race hater and trying to pass as white. In this position today, it seems that most identify as black and are identified in this way by society.

Boogieman wrote:

KudzuRunner wrote:

It's called the one-drop rule or the rule of hypodescent. Look it up. It traces back to slavery--slaveowners wanted to make sure that when they had sex with their female slaves and a child was produced, that child was still their slave-property for life. The one-drop rule continued into the segregation era. If somebody had one provable black ancestor as far back as the great-grandparents' (or great-great-grandparents'??) generation, they were considered "black" and suffered second class citizenship. One-eighth black--seven white great-grandprents, one black great-grandparent was called an octaroon.

+100 I thought this was in every high school history class.

Not in high school in the UK!

While historically this could be regarded as an honor, I can't believe people still actually buy and read that garbage of a rag. With their zero credibility, I don't know how anybody could believe anything they write. I didn't even know they still produced an actual magazine. I figured by now they would just have a site on the internet with a bunch of 2 paragraph stories so the youngsters could stay interested.

I can't believe people can't tell she's mixed black/white.

I want her on dancing with the stars

Mother is white, father is black. They showed them multiple times at 2016 OT on NBC, I'm sure someone could find coverage if they so desired. There's also multiple articles with her full family pictured

That Ultra Guy wrote:

Boogieman wrote:

+100 I thought this was in every high school history class.

Umm no, just the Afrocentric ones that claim the Egyptians were black.

Well I went to a $24,000/yr, 97% white private school. That should tell you something when your high school only talks about MLK Jr, and glosses over the horrible things that blacks were subjected to. That same one drop rule affected voting, housing, etc. Also, Egyptians were black, but I'm certain you've looked at a painting where Egyptians were depicted as pale skinned lol.

+100 I thought this was in every high school history class.[/quote]

Not in high school in the UK![/quote]

I can understand that. Y'all have a pass haha

XY wrote:

I can't believe people can't tell she's mixed black/white.

The point I was raising - as a naive Brit - is why a poster was saying that she is clearly black!

douglas burke wrote:

I don't know if she has a good personality or not, but even if her personality is not so great, her athletic performances will more than make up for it.

I've seen a few post-race interviews with her. Going into the first one, she was just a fast youngster interviewed probably because she was so young and fast; after the interview I took notice. Going into the second interview I saw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQtrb16uzyA), she seemed to have a very good personality and I'm rooting for her. I haven't seen or heard anything that would deter me from being a fan and she seems like a model athlete.