Ethiopian 17-year-old runs 12:55 5K.

I know it's not running, but to be fair Katie Ledecky won the olympics in 2012 when she was 15, and obviously did even more last summer in Rio at 19. In my opinion that's even more impressive than a 17 year old running 12:55. Some people are just disgustingly talented.

hahahaha.this deserves a high-5funny

Age cheating detector wrote:

How old is an Ethiopan 17-year-old?

PrZ wrote:

I know it's not running, but to be fair Katie Ledecky won the olympics in 2012 when she was 15, and obviously did even more last summer in Rio at 19. In my opinion that's even more impressive than a 17 year old running 12:55. Some people are just disgustingly talented.

Swimming is a lot different physiologically and not nearly as deep talent-wise worldwide. Now, within the US or Australia, the talent depth is probably better for swimming than for distance running.

said88 wrote:

Staying to the facts is always better than spreading lies Mr(?) Coevett. I'm not even here at all to defend Aouita in any way. But just continou with all your lies if you feel better than.

Aouita could "barely break 4 minutes for the mile". Well, just for your info: Coe could not even break this barrier and one year later easily bettered the WR. Stupid statement? Definitely. Exactly on a par with most of your listings of all those wrong "facts".

Well I appreciate English is not your first language, nor likely your second, but even that doesn't explain your inability to understand simple points. Aouita was barely breaking 3:40 for the 1500m which translates as barely breaking 4 minutes for the Mile.

Coe had only run one or two mile races and not even many more 1500m races. He was predominantly an 800m runner until 1979. Despite this, in 1977 at the age of 20 and two years before his world record he beat Filbert Bayi, the then world record holder in the Emsley Carr Mile in 3:57. So you're just making things up now.

The year before at the end of 1976 while still a teenager, he gave John Walker who had just won Olympic Gold a fair old race in a Mile. In 1978 he was essentially the number 1 800m runner in the world, so it was hardly a shock that he broke the Mile record in 1979 when he'd just smashed the 800m WR and had been showing his potential at the longer distance as well for the previous three seasons.

To compare Coe's progression with that of Aouita's just reveals how totally dishonest AND stupid you really are.

@Said - all you're capable of is lying, repeating 'points' that only prove how suspicious Aouita was, completely ignoring Aouita's drug scandal as if it didn't happen, and resorting to childish and personal insults.

You really do sum up the pathetic modern German male (if you are German and male, which I doubt).

Martin Ward wrote:

don´t know why you americans keep talking about age instread of year born. it´s just confusing talking 16 or 17 years old.

ingebritsen and barega are actualy born the same year. 2000

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/ethiopia/selemon-barega-310950

Two people could be born in the same year and one almost a year older

Ok I am sick of this "look at him he definitely isn't 17" thing. Yes age cheating is a thing that needs to stop, but you can not tell a teenagers age by looking at them. I have known 15 year olds who look like they're 12, and I've known 16 year olds that look 25. I mean look at Allen Webb. He looks 30 at 18. My point is their should be skepticism, but they whole look at their facs thing is retared.

Morans 😉

Meh........ wrote:

Ok I am sick of this "look at him he definitely isn't 17" thing. Yes age cheating is a thing that needs to stop, but you can not tell a teenagers age by looking at them. I have known 15 year olds who look like they're 12, and I've known 16 year olds that look 25. I mean look at Allen Webb. He looks 30 at 18. My point is their should be skepticism, but they whole look at their facs thing is retared.

Morans 😉

He started university according to someone here a year ago about, if he's on pace in school that means he's about 17-18, only thing we honestly have to go by

Supersupercenentarian wrote:

Gee, I don't know, who would win in a fight, a salamander or a dinosaur?

Also, this is fake, yeah? Can't find anything on it on the internet and am kind of ashamed for having actually done so.

Props to you for just bringing up salamanders.

Gotta bee wrote:

Meh........ wrote:

Ok I am sick of this "look at him he definitely isn't 17" thing. Yes age cheating is a thing that needs to stop, but you can not tell a teenagers age by looking at them. I have known 15 year olds who look like they're 12, and I've known 16 year olds that look 25. I mean look at Allen Webb. He looks 30 at 18. My point is their should be skepticism, but they whole look at their facs thing is retared.

Morans 😉

He started university according to someone here a year ago about, if he's on pace in school that means he's about 17-18, only thing we honestly have to go by

Wouldn't that make him 19?

Who cares if he's 17, 19, or 21? 12:55 is 12:55. Bottom line is that he's legit medal threat on the world stage.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Coevett wrote:

The WR for the Mile before EPO was 3:46 and run by a white guy who likely wasn't on PEDs. He ran a 3:57 at 17, so similar to Jakob, esp given the 30 years that have elapsed since.

The WR for the 5000m before EPO was Aouita's 12:55, a man who was likely the first of a flood of African dopers. When Aouita was 22, he could barely crack 14 minutes for the 5000 or 4 minutes for the mile.

Jakob's family are all world class middle-distance runners who have been coaching him since he popped out his mother's womb. Extraordinary talent + extraordinary environment = once in a generation athlete.

How in the hell did a 17 year old just run a 12:55 5k? A 20s pb this is a joke. $5 says that he has never been tested & he ain't 17.

you are clearly naive. Everyone on these boards has had a breakthrough race early on in their running careers. I went from 10:40 to 10:15 my junior year in back to back races only 3 weeks apart

Cluer inner wrote:

As noted before, he is taller than at least Henrik and maybe both by now.

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c0.112.1080.1080/13707252_1782210825325312_2071788799_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTMwMTQ1NDM0NzkxODI0NDkzMw%3D%3D.2.c

These guys should get the award for the fastest un-athletic looking family ever.

Phife wrote:

Cluer inner wrote:

As noted before, he is taller than at least Henrik and maybe both by now.

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c0.112.1080.1080/13707252_1782210825325312_2071788799_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTMwMTQ1NDM0NzkxODI0NDkzMw%3D%3D.2.c

These guys should get the award for the fastest un-athletic looking family ever.

The little sister looks athletic. Especially if you were stuck watching the softball game while waiting for TTSS...

Coevett wrote:

Kev2 wrote:

Aouita's WR was 12:58 before Gebresellasie and Kiptanui lowered it to 12:55

Ahh yes, you're right. Aouita really was fortunate in his timing. Broke two weak world records - the 1500m and 5000m. It was really lucky for him that for various reasons neither Coe or Ovett moved up to the 5000m in their prime. If Moorcroft was able to run 13 dead (and should have broken 13 mins that night) then Coe or Ovett would have destroyed 12:58 - amply demonstrated by Ovett being able to jog 13:20 even when an injury wreck years past his prime. Both should have ran 3:28 or faster for the 1500m. That would have left Aouita with the 3000m WR - which was less prestigious than the two mile at the time - and one Olympic 5000m gold.

Neither of the 1500m or 5,000m WRs were weak at that time.

But given Moorcroft did run 13 dead he should have run under 13 that day, but he had to make the race himself.

Ovett actually looked at the 5,000m earlier in his career but was smacked by Yifter.

Of the two, Ovett had more potential over 5,000m etc.

Anyone know what Moorcroft's 2nd best 5,000m time was?

2 miles was not that serious on an event even back in the 1970s, it only had "world best" status because Ovett set it beating Rono.

Probably shouldn't have posted this. Now I am really sure he was suspect, dropping to 1:43 @ 28 years "officially" and from what we know about poor countries, their athletes are virtually always two years older than what they say they are. It is hard to find an elite middle distance runner that set a PB for 800m after the age of 25.

I doubt if Ovett was taking a serious look at moving up to 5000m in 1977 and if he did he would have probably decided to on the basis of running 13:20 and getting within 4 seconds of the best in the world. Eamonn Coghlan's 5000m pb in the 80's was 13:17 and he was a world champion. Back then the 1500/5000 double was impossible due to the preference in the schedules for 800/1500, so Ovett would have had to become a specialist 5000m racer as he did finally in 86 nearly 10 years later. Would you give up the 1500m after that world cup victory in 77? It doesn't mean his 5000m was bad - it was amazing. But his 1500m form in late 77 was amongst the best of all time. BTW, he also got beat by Henry Rono early in 78 and later in the season thrashed him in the two miles. If Ovett had ran 3 or 4 more 5000m races with the additional endurance training in the winter of 77 he probably would have been in sub 13 shape in the summer of 78.

The two miles was more prestigious back then than the 3000m in the UK, even before Ovett smacked Henry Rono, who was at the time achieving the most amazing record breaking long distance season in history.

Moorcroft never got near his record again, I think he never ran under 13:10 again.

He's pretty good I guess, I dunno if he could have beaten Hall, Ritz or Webb in their teenage years though?

He ran 13:21 last year at age 16 in the U20 World Championships, so it is clear that he is not an age cheat. Ethiopia would have no reason to enter an overage athlete in such a minor championship, so we know he is legit.

13:21 is pretty good I guess, for 16. What did the age 16 kids in the U.S. do last year? 12:45, 12:50? He's no Drew Fisher or Justyn Knight, but he is good for 17, I will agree. The best American age 16 5ker may have been McChesney, he ran 29:07 I think when he was 16, so maybe he could have gone 14:04-14:08? This Barega kid is good at 13:21, I guess.

Coevett wrote:

@Said - all you're capable of is lying, repeating 'points' that only prove how suspicious Aouita was, completely ignoring Aouita's drug scandal as if it didn't happen, and resorting to childish and personal insults.

You really do sum up the pathetic modern German male (if you are German and male, which I doubt).

You exemplify everything that people hate about Brits.