Hurl wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxnqHvEbGnc
This Armstrong video is fantastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJmYmasQhcI can't think of a more charismatic liar.
Hurl wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxnqHvEbGnc
This Armstrong video is fantastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJmYmasQhcI can't think of a more charismatic liar.
Sir Lancelot wrote:
Lance Armstrong was the most tested athlete ever and never failed a drug test while he was riding.
Lol. Those are just two of the many lies from Armstrong. Thanks for the laugh.
Lance failed plenty of tests that were not reported.
with the said, i think Jager is as guilty as everyone on the list.
either all guilty or all innocent. i don't draw lines based on my emotion.
No one is really talking about the Kenyans and Epopians on the lists. Apparently there's only one who's clean and and the Israeli is of course clean...
Defar...Kiprop...Kiplagat...Yego...
Then again, some of it is nonsense... Puskedra. lol...
Looks like fact and fiction mixed together.
YEAH LANCE wrote:
i don't draw lines based on my emotion.
You must live a sad life.
cool kid wrote:
http://www.evanjager.com/news/2017/7/6/statement-regarding-fancy-bears-documentWell done press statement, sounds like he's trying to be proactive.
Not bad
Bull crap.
He writes this:
"There is a possibility that I did take a test that day, but I have no record of it. I am trying to contact the authorities to determine if I was tested that day and how my name could have ended up on such a list."
How many of you runners keep a running diary/log? I have for almost 40 years. In that running journal I would CERTAINLY make a note that I was DRUG TESTED that day. I'm sure he keeps such a log. He seems to not to be able to find his, but allows that he may have been tested that day. This is the bull crap moment. He knows if he was tested and he probably was. His whole statement sounds so much like Lance Armstrong.
It was an internal "flag" notification, not something he would have been made aware of. I'm very confident Jager is micro-dosing like most T&F stars at the top of their event. It is illogical to assume Evan is clean, considering the athletes he has taken down.
left, right, right wrote:
How many of you runners keep a running diary/log? I have for almost 40 years. In that running journal I would CERTAINLY make a note that I was DRUG TESTED that day. I'm sure he keeps such a log. He seems to not to be able to find his, but allows that he may have been tested that day. This is the bull crap moment. He knows if he was tested and he probably was. His whole statement sounds so much like Lance Armstrong.
Do you write down your appointments in your training log?
It's a training long not a google calendar. Also, it shouldn't be hard to find dates of testing from usada if he really wanted them so why would he bother writing this stuff down?
you gotta call him a liar based on something better than not writing down his dates of drug testing.
left, right, right wrote:
Well done press statement, sounds like he's trying to be proactive.
Not bad
Bull crap.
He writes this:
"There is a possibility that I did take a test that day, but I have no record of it. I am trying to contact the authorities to determine if I was tested that day and how my name could have ended up on such a list."
How many of you runners keep a running diary/log? I have for almost 40 years. In that running journal I would CERTAINLY make a note that I was DRUG TESTED that day. I'm sure he keeps such a log. He seems to not to be able to find his, but allows that he may have been tested that day. This is the bull crap moment. He knows if he was tested and he probably was. His whole statement sounds so much like Lance Armstrong.[/quote]
It doesn't mean he was tested that day. It means there was an internal memo that day, which he would not been made aware of.
I'm not sure what I would say if I was accused of doping, but I can assure you it'd be a heck of a lot better than anything I've heard before.
And don't forget that in the early 90s, when Lance wasn't much more than a regional winner in Texas, he stated something along the lines of - unless one dopes, they'll get dropped from the peloton.
Bro, he's in Europe. Do you carry your 40 years of journals everywhere you go? Clearly he's reasoning is, he wasn't tested that day. Making the hackers info invalid. He leaves the possibility open that he may not have the records, that is why he is going through the proper authorities to make sure.
This isn't the typical "I have never failed a drug test." He is saying that he was never even drug tested that day.
armstrong fan wrote:
Hurl wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxnqHvEbGncThis Armstrong video is fantastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJmYmasQhcI can't think of a more charismatic liar.
The Mobot?
Failed to answer the question wrote:
"I have never taken any banned substance "
Did you ever use a banned method, like blood doping to trigger ABP?
It is interesting how we all wordsmith these things.
Jager did say, "I have never and will never break or try to bend an anti-doping rule." which I think encompasses all things. It leads no room for error. "What I'm doing is above board" is how I read it. No "gray area".
His whole statement sounds so much like Lance Armstrong.
I thought the opposite. He didn't use the Lance, "I've never failed a drug test." He didn't get angry.
I've very used to people getting angry when I ask them these type questions. Doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or the other but I thought his response was very different than Lance or Carmelita Jeter's or Regina Jacob's.
He said while the IAAF determine nothing happened he's disappointed he's lost people's trust.
Evan didn't blast people for putting him on the list. He said he was surprised to see himself on a list.
I feel like Lance would fixate one one or two technicalities that might not be true. Jager did go searching to see what happened with his drug test that day and then discover he didn't think he had one, but was open to the possibility he had one. Sort of like, "trying to figure this out."
Here's Lance: "If you're trying to hide something, you wouldn't keep getting away with it for 10 years. Nobody is that clever."
May 2011: "Twenty-plus-year career, 500 drug controls worldwide, in and out of competition. Never a failed test. I rest my case."
June 2012: "I have never doped … I have competed as an endurance athlete for 25 years with no spike in performance, passed more than 500 drug tests and never failed one."
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jan/18/lance-armstrong-doping-denials-quotesLook obviously this is going to get a lot of and should get a lot of scrutiny and we all have to be open the possibility athletes are doping especially if you're on that list.
The IAAF needs to get people to believe in its anti-doping system. Considering it's past, I can see why many people don't.
Having said that I also know the Russians (Fancy Bears) want you to believe the system is just stacked against them and not other stars when in reality they were the ones abusing the system for years.
Wejo,
Why did Jager delete his statement?
It's not deleted. It's at www.evanjager.com/news
I believe him. People with a man bun hairstyle are straight edge all the way.
Jager's statement has not been deleted. The original link is not correct. Click the upper right hand link and select "news"
Wejo,
Why did Jager delete his statement?[/quote]
The point is that if any of you were drug tested you would certainly write that down in your running/training journal. And if it was as recently as 2016, you would not forget someone
showing up at your door and asking you to take a drug test. This would be a significant moment and worthy of memory. He acts fuzzy on this and allows it might have taken place? Very convenient of him to play both sides just in case they produce a drug test for that date. I still say bull crap. You don't forget stuff like that. And, yes, most people would write it down: he probably did.
left, right, right wrote:
The point is that if any of you were drug tested you would certainly write that down in your running/training journal. And if it was as recently as 2016, you would not forget someone
showing up at your door and asking you to take a drug test. This would be a significant moment and worthy of memory. He acts fuzzy on this and allows it might have taken place? Very convenient of him to play both sides just in case they produce a drug test for that date. I still say bull crap. You don't forget stuff like that. And, yes, most people would write it down: he probably did.
No, if you're tested 10-20 times a year, it's not a significant moment at all. You don't remember exact times and dates of each test. You also probably don't write it in a training journal IF you even have one, since it has nothing to do with training.
eeeey wrote:
Bro, he's in Europe. Do you carry your 40 years of journals everywhere you go? Clearly he's reasoning is, he wasn't tested that day. Making the hackers info invalid. He leaves the possibility open that he may not have the records, that is why he is going through the proper authorities to make sure.
This isn't the typical "I have never failed a drug test." He is saying that he was never even drug tested that day.
Maybe he didn't pee in a cup on that day, but they took a sample they had stored and tested it that day?
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RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
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