ANDREWS DNF

It's not that he wasn't feeling it, there was just no advantage to finishing. At 400 to go he saw it was too slow and bailed. It's not analagous to a workout at all. He had one and only one goal, saw he wouldn't get it, and decided to try again later.

Having said that, it's his own fault for not sticking with Lomong (even though he did go out fast). Robby's always been shockingly bad with regard to positioning himself optimally. His race in Sacramento was the best he's had tactically, but he's still not quite there.

I don't know Robby, but sometimes I question his intelligence. I have seen so many poor tactical decisions in races by him. Really frustrating to watch him race.

Sbeefyk1 wrote:1:55 through 800 should be a jog.

For a guy struggling to run the equivalent of a 3:53/4 mile, why should the first half of a 3:50 mile "be a jog"?

transient wrote:

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Next with the qualifier is Blankenship (?)

True. But you have to place in the top 8 regardless to go.

That's NOT true, why would you make that up?

Extraneous accoutrements wrote:

ClonedDuck wrote:

he's a pansy. Then don't slow to 60s splits.

Exactly. Go with the pacer if you want the standard. Weak, weak effort. At least he didn't have on a headband or sunglasses, I guess.

Typical USA p#ssypack running.

But how pathetic is it we can't qualify three men in the 1500?

I've gotten in races before where my sole goal was to hit a qualifying standard and then hit the last lap with no chance to get it.

Never dropped out, though.

We see runners chasing standards all the time that fall behind pace but still finish the race.

Lord knows we've seen Manzano finish after falling off pace.

It's a pretty rare thing to see someone drop out of a 1500 on the last lap because they weren't going to hit a standard they were chasing.

That may be the reason he dropped out, but it's not common.

If your logic is that there was to advantage to finishing because he only was running for time, then you would see people dropping out of races all of the time for that same reason.

Why would that logic only apply to Andrews?

ugh worst post wrote:

But how pathetic is it we can't qualify three men in the 1500?

Yet another falsehood.

The US has more than 3 qualifiers currently and will send 3 to London. The only question currently is which 3.

From the tone of some of the posts here, you would think this was 2000, when Jason Pyrah making the Oly final was cause for celebration, rather than 2017, a year after 2 Americans made the Oly final and one won gold.

But I digress.

From my own personal experience, I will say that running for time is a much different game mentally than running for place, especially in the 1500. It can be weirdly alienating, focusing purely on time rather than those around you, and can make it hard to summon quite the same energy, adrenaline, and focus. While I find it unfortunate Robby didn't make the standard this time out, I have to imagine this race was lacking the adrenaline of the previous week. He'll get the standard.

Ovidius wrote:

From the tone of some of the posts here, you would think this was 2000, when Jason Pyrah making the Oly final was cause for celebration, rather than 2017, a year after 2 Americans made the Oly final and one won gold.

But I digress.

From my own personal experience, I will say that running for time is a much different game mentally than running for place, especially in the 1500. It can be weirdly alienating, focusing purely on time rather than those around you, and can make it hard to summon quite the same energy, adrenaline, and focus. While I find it unfortunate Robby didn't make the standard this time out, I have to imagine this race was lacking the adrenaline of the previous week. He'll get the standard.

All these totally BS excuses for Andrews. If this was Centro or Rupp or any NOP/Nike athlete the little boys on LosersRant.com would be unrelenting on what a pu$$y, quitter, fake, etc they were. Always love the excuses for True, Andrews and the other 2nd, 3rd and 4th tier runners on these boards.

GBohannon wrote:

what just happened wrote:

what happened to him?

I am guessing he dropped because he knew he didn't have 53 in him which is what he needed for the standard. Rather than stupidly sprinting a 55 for no reason, he chose to save it for another attempt in the near future.

I normally hate DNF's. If you're running bad, finish anyway. But Robbie needs a qualifier & cannot afford a high-effort miss.

ugh worst post wrote:

But how pathetic is it we can't qualify three men in the 1500?

7 Americans ran under 3:36 last year (including Andrews) and Gregorek ran 3:36.04.

All of those times were run after July 1.

The Olympics allowed prior year times for qualifying.

This year's World Championships do not.

the 2017 World Q period started 1 Oct 2016

And there were zero 1500m qualifying times run between Oct and Dec 20016.

Might as well say Jan 1, 2017 is the start of the window.

No American born in the 50 states has run 3:36.0 or better in New York outdoors.

wineturtle wrote:

the 2017 World Q period started 1 Oct 2016

Can we have a list of outdoor meets in this hemisphere between Oct 2016 and Jan 1 2017?

What a dopey point to make.

Such a horrible attitude, and very telling of our future. There is ALWAYS an advantage to finishing.

Be Elliot wrote:

Such a horrible attitude, and very telling of our future. There is ALWAYS an advantage to finishing.

Got to love the "Monday morning" time-trialing.

Things always seem so clear from the sofa.

Star wrote:

If your logic is that there was to advantage to finishing because he only was running for time, then you would see people dropping out of races all of the time for that same reason.

Why would that logic only apply to Andrews?

Because now he has to try again on Thursday. It could be argued that finishing yesterday wouldn't have hurt his chances on Thursday. It could also be argued that it would. You seem to be the only one not understanding the logic here.