I had a pure bred dog that I traced his lineage back to the 1700s. Paid $100.
I had a pure bred dog that I traced his lineage back to the 1700s. Paid $100.
I am wondering why you deem my contribution as "not useful"? OP asked the question "why is there a stigma around purebred dogs?" I responded as honestly and as thoughtfully as I could to OP's question. You shared a tangential personal anecdote in reaction to the stigma of purebred dog owners. In the context of OP's question, whose contribution is more useful?
You have a different experience than the norm - you chose to buy a "defective" purebred pup. You are on the margins of the purebreeding business. The problems with purebreeding are driven by the typical customer, not the exceptional customer such as yourself. You don't have to take the generalizations personally, if they do not apply to you. Calling my contribution "not useful" centers the conversation around YOUR experience and wishes, not the thread. Do you see what I mean?
jimmy jack wrote:
I had a pure bred dog that I traced his lineage back to the 1700s. Paid $100.
So the problem is that purebred owners are simply paying too much? By paying less, you're superior?
You got a purebred dog for a discount, and now you're carrying on bragging about the purebred, just like those who paid full price. I don't see much of a distinction to care about. You suck too. You're just smug for a different reason.
Dog Daycare Employee wrote:
jimmy jack wrote:
I had a pure bred dog that I traced his lineage back to the 1700s. Paid $100.
You're just smug for a different reason.
It just comes down to intent. There's plenty of people who have bought (at a high price) from breeders after doing their due diligence and have given a dog a loving and productive home for its entire life without any thought to any sort of social status or "look at me and ~pure bred dog~"
You also have people who come into shelters and somehow manage to make the lives of poor abandoned pit bulls and boxers even worse.
Cool, I bought my first dog recently also
kalvinbrown wrote:
Recently my wife and I bought a Maltipoo puppy as a gift for our 4-year-old daughter. You have no idea how happy she was when she saw him. She started stroking him and sitting with him 24/24, even sleeping with him. After a while he got sick and the whole family was under stress because we were afraid if it is something serious. I knew that if she died, our little girl would have a big shock. Well though everything is fine and our puppy is healthy and playful.
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Damn, this bread of dogs is gorgeous! I bought one for my daughter. It's our first pet and it's a truly sweetheart
FYI, it is very transparent that these two accounts are working together to advertise the linked website. Please stop. Thanks for resurrecting the old thread, though!
:)
Teacup Maltipoos are not purebred dogs. They are mutts and are not recognized by the AKC. These mutt hybrids are all the rage and are getting big money but they aren’t registered. There a lot of dangers with them for the money. Is it a 50:50 mix? Is this a first generation breed or is there multi-generational breeding going on? Be very careful buying mixed hybrids. Lots of people are out for the big money and you’ll get left with a dud pet.
Rowlandson wrote:
kalvinbrown wrote:
Recently my wife and I bought a Maltipoo puppy as a gift for our 4-year-old daughter. You have no idea how happy she was when she saw him. She started stroking him and sitting with him 24/24, even sleeping with him. After a while he got sick and the whole family was under stress because we were afraid if it is something serious. I knew that if she died, our little girl would have a big shock. Well though everything is fine and our puppy is healthy and playful.
By the way for those who want to procure or find out information, you can enter here
https://teacupmaltipoo.com/how-to-train-a-maltipoo-puppy-to-stop-biting/Damn, this bread of dogs is gorgeous! I bought one for my daughter. It's our first pet and it's a truly sweetheart
not a purebred issue wrote:
Having a dog bred specifically for you when you could adopt an existing dog that needs a home (and that may be euthanized if it does not find one) is probably the thing that people object to.
Isn't that like objecting to a couple having their own children when there are needy kids in foster care that could be adopted?
To the people saying mutts are better why is it that Border Collies are used for herding sheep not mutts.
Why are German Shepherds and Dobermans used as Police Dogs
And why are Greyhounds used for racing.
Why are Labradors used as Guide Dogs.
End of discussion.
I don't have answers, I just have more questions.
cheaterfly wrote:
To the people saying mutts are better why is it that Border Collies are used for herding sheep not mutts.
Bingo. Why bring that border collie into the suburbs, where you will have to try your hardest to give it the exercise and mental enrichment it needs? It wants to do its job!
Why are German Shepherds and Dobermans used as Police Dogs
They are extremely trainable, and they love to have a job. Scratch that. NEED to have a job. The german shepherds at my facility, they don't play like normal dogs. They stalk the dogs and intervene - we actually call this policing, and it's super dangerous. I have never seen a doberman in my facility. There is one rottweiler with a trigger temper, that we basically have to have a different protocol when that dog is in the yard.
And why are Greyhounds used for racing.
Because they were bred to be fast so people could own them and gamble on them for being fast. They're pretty chill TBH, as long as they haven't been mentally broken by the strict life of being a race dog. They tend to be sweeties.
Why are Labradors used as Guide Dogs.
Extremely trainable. Great temperament. The ones at my facility have no jobs, and they are aggressively friendly to the point of jumping, pawing, and biting for attention. Their energy has been undirected, and they are not trained. Similar to goldens, not very dangerous, just chronically annoying and simple-minded.
End of discussion.
Agreed. Enjoy your life out on the farm, or in the K9 unit, or as a service dog trainer, I guess.
Dog Daycare Employee wrote:
I don't have answers, I just have more questions.
cheaterfly wrote:
To the people saying mutts are better why is it that Border Collies are used for herding sheep not mutts.
Bingo. Why bring that border collie into the suburbs, where you will have to try your hardest to give it the exercise and mental enrichment it needs? It wants to do its job!
I do about 40 mpw with my border collie. She also plays frisbee and ball in the back yard a couple of times a day. The rest of the day she lies around passed out from all the exercise she gets. I am starting agility with her, but she just looks for her frisbee the whole time. I got her because I wanted an active dog that would play all the time. She is the second BC I have had.
I also adopted a sheppie mix I found in the parking lot at the grocery store. She was a great dog. But I was very lucky to find her as a puppy and raise her. I know a lot of people who have adopted shelter dogs who had to give them back despite being extremely dedicated pet owners. Shelter dogs can be extremely difficult. A neighbor down the street had a pit mix they adopted that was able to pull away from them while on a leash and attacked other dogs. I love dogs, but not everyone of them can be saved. Shelter dogs have become a bit of a fad so everyone can post stories on social media about how wonderful they are to have adopted. But the reality is that abandoned and abused dogs can be very dangerous even with the best care and training. They just aren't for everyone.
The real problem with pure bread dogs is the AKC and confirmation shows. Breeding dogs for appearance should be banned and is the reason there are so many diseased dogs. Breeders in breed like crazy to try to replicate winning traits. It is horrible what they do.
Border collies are AKC dogs, but my breeder has her dogs on a cattle ranch and trains them to herd. Her dogs are all different sizes, shapes and colors. She works with other ranchers to breed with their dogs to keep the genetics strong and avoid closely breeding dogs. My BC has never had a health issue. She does try to herd cars, but that is what makes her so much fun.
Reading this whole post made me smile. Your dog sounds like she has a great setup! I'm impressed with your drive to enrich her life.
Buy whatever you want. Goldens are great dogs. Better than getting a dog from the pound with all sorts of issues. The cats have to go, though.
NO NO NO!! EVERY BREED'S THE SAME YOU RACIST!!
(Making a point).
wonder....... wrote:
NO NO NO!! EVERY BREED'S THE SAME YOU RACIST!!
(Making a point).
Exactly, people accept that different breeds of dogs tend to have different strengths/weaknesses and tendencies while pretending it's no different with the different races of human. Yeah sure you can find a dumb Border Collie or a slower than average Greyhound but an exception doesn't mean the rule doesn't still exist.
The two people I know that got dogs from shelters have both had major aggression issues. They have cost more than a known entity, bred dog, in medical bills for other dogs and additional training.
They are both muzzled in public. One of them also took down a deer. Both are still alive and who knows what’s next. One of them bit my hand when I was pulling it off my dog.
I’ve owned 4 dogs in my life and never had issues, health or aggression, all from breeders.
Bottom line is shelter dogs might cost less and you are rolling the dice with dogs of unknown breeds who may have been traumatized.
not a purebred issue wrote:
I don't think anyone has an issue with purebreds. My dogs have all been purebred greyhounds (most have been retired racers). No one has ever given me a hard time about that.
Having a dog bred specifically for you when you could adopt an existing dog that needs a home (and that may be euthanized if it does not find one) is probably the thing that people object to.
That's because people know that greyhounds are pretty much all rescues.
Wealthy industrialist wrote:
You are in the right.
Shelter dogs are there for a reason. People don't give good dogs away. When you want a good meal do you go to the soup kitchen?
You are wrong abut dogs in shelters. Yes, some are problem dogs (newsflash, problem dogs come from purbred breeders too), but dogs end up in shelters for many reasons. Dog too energetic for an elderly couple, dog doesn't like the other dogs in the family or the cats, dog herds the small children, someone dies and the family doesn't want to take it in, family has financial trouble, so they get rid of the dog, etc. I got a black lab from a shelter, and she lived 15 years with no health problems until the very end, and that dog was the best. I chose her because she rolled over and wanted her belly rubbed. Best dog ever.
This thread is old. Is that OPs dog dead yet?
Sure hope it got steamrolled.