Polygraph test used to out $2.8 million winner (cheat) of fishing tournament, can this by used in running?

$2.8 million for catching a damn fish????

Poly graphs are unreliable. I listened to a podcast on NPR that explains why it's now illegal to use them in most settings.

Yes they should be used and should be required, and would be especially helpful internationally.

Not nessecerily as the only line evidence but as one tool. I would suggest in cases where athletes numbers (especially passport numbers) are borderline, a failed polygraph could put it over the top.

Also athletes selected for testing could be polygraphed such that the testers could know what tests to perform. And finally coaches and athletes could be polygraphed to help investigate and find new drugs and to determine what is going on out there, to help direct future testing.

I guess you didn't read the article. The decision was not whether the polygraph test was valid, it was whether the promoters of the contest fulfilled their contract. They did, the fisherman did not. He agreed to the stipulation of having to pass the polygraph test and did not do so. Perhaps the fisherman will try and go back to court and get a ruling on the validity of the polygraph test, but I don't think he could win, since he agreed to taking it. Why make it more complicated than it is. The court ruled there was no bias on the part of the organization running the contest.

Could this be used in running? I would think not. Who would agree to this when the payout is so small for winning? This would only work if every road race included the polygraph test as being stipulated before giving out the prize money. Or the prize money is at the same level ($2 million plus) that runners would agree to sign off.

The only white marlin to qualify in this year’s $2.8 million White Marlin Open seemed a sure bet to earn that grand prize for the winning team on the boat Kallianassa.. Since then, however, the team came under suspicion of rules violations and, after members failed the same polygraph questions, the White Marlin Open asked the circuit court to make a ruling on disqualifying the winning team and deciding on distribution of prize money.

According to published court records, angler Phillip Heasley (who is also captain/owner of the Naples, Florida-based Kallianassa and the angler catching the 76.5-pound marlin on Day Two of the tournament, Aug. 9) and crew member Kyle Bohannon both failed the polygraph for the same rules-related questions, notably whether Heasley had assistance in catching the fish and whether the boat had passed the sea buoy before 4 a.m.

A Florida man won first, second, and third place for a single fish.

The catch that won this year's White Marlin Open was nearly 23 pounds shy of breaking the tournament record, but the angler who caught it probably couldn't care less. The fish netted its captor nearly $3 million in prize money. The "catch".... it was the only white marlin caught in the tournament that qualified.

Isn't time of death easily estimated from a fish carcass?

The're debating whether they caught the fish before the start time. So if it's caught at 8:15 vs 8:45 it's a big deal. And I have no idea how it works here but fish are often kept alive a long time after being caught.

The fish bite early in the morning and in the evening, so catching before an 8:30 start time would presumably give a big advantage. Think about if you started a track race or a marathon early, wouldn't that be unfair? And if they lied about when they caught the fish, they might have been lying about whether he had help and whether they used legal lures as well. What if the fisherman is doping as well? Big surprise that he's from Fla.

They're fat, thus dishonest.

lean and mean wrote:

They're fat, thus dishonest.

They sit on butts drinking beer while looking at a fishing pole that's being held in rod holder. Why would you expect either their physiques or their character to be anything but what you describe?

ridiculous wrote:

$2.8 million for catching a damn fish????

I think it comes from entry fees ($1000 base for 300 boats/each, and then additional ante-ups if you want to win big).

The truth is self elephant wrote:

lean and mean wrote:

They're fat, thus dishonest.

They sit on butts drinking beer while looking at a fishing pole that's being held in rod holder. Why would you expect either their physiques or their character to be anything but what you describe?

That fisher dude in The Old Man and the Sea was lean and mean.

Not even Irish wrote:

Poly graphs are unreliable. I listened to a podcast on NPR that explains why it's now illegal to use them in most settings.

Ploygraphs are NOT reliable.

The tournament cheated by using this excuse, to avoid paying the prize to them.

Why not put a go pro on each boat and give the competitor a number as the time starts. He must catch the fish and bring it in on camera while wearing the number....

You can't disagree with the fact that polygraph tests are unreliable, and this can work in the cheater's favor as well. All one has to do is remain calm and relax and lie while doing it and they can easily pass a polygraph. Likewise, someone who is anxious about the test but is telling the truth can fail the test. It's not accurate.

Gwalkerruns wrote:

Why not put a go pro on each boat and give the competitor a number as the time starts. He must catch the fish and bring it in on camera while wearing the number....

I was thinking something like this. They can't just set up a live video feed on each boat?

There's got to be a better way than this lie detector test?

When asked about the time that his crew set out the lines, he said, "I don't wear a watch."

I think this response sank his case. If you don't wear a watch how can you be sure it's 8:30?

Not even Irish wrote:

Poly graphs are unreliable. I listened to a podcast on NPR that explains why it's now illegal to use them in most settings.

True. This is why they are inadmissable in criminal court.

exthrower wrote:

My first thoughts exactly wrote:

Ploygraphs are NOT reliable.

The tournament cheated by using this excuse, to avoid paying the prize to them.

Typical lefty....Supports cheaters...

I'm not political, and have no tolerance for ANY type of cheaters.