It seems lots of letsrunners only consider a workout a quality workout if you leave gutted and DEVASTATED.
Pros like Nick do easy workouts to prepare. If you're a guy like Nick (not a 800M/Miler but a pure 800M guy) a easy day would look just like what he did.
Try adding some "easy" workouts to your training. Save the truly hard effort for a handful of workouts later in the season when you are in good shape.
Gettin' played wrote:
Sad wrote:Yeah, although he does admit that he has been really tired from training, and is going to taper after today. It's kind of sad to see such a legendary athlete's career come full circle like this, but even Symmonds knows this and you can sense that he knows this in his videos, but everything has to come to an end at some point. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with him at US Champs, but Nick is only running it because he can since it's last year he'll get
free qualification from his World silver medal.
You guys are so gullible..
You really think he's that out of shape? He's playing for the audience that the workout is hard and he's tired. That workout was meant to be slow and easy. Plus, how do you know he didn't do those 800s in 2:17 instead of 2:27.
Either way, this guy is making the build up story the classic underdog comeback story but without the pressure because you don't see him ripping fast intervals and then bomb USAs. He will run 1:45 and finish 3rd at the trials behind Murphy and sowinski
I hope so. I am rooting for Nick. But then, I was rooting for Rupp at the olympics and also rooted for Kipchoge to break 2. So I guess I just like to see people do well.
Also, you don't always have to be able to train fast to race fast. He may have it in him.
Maybe there was a huge hill on the 800 repeats they didn't show and he finished at the top of it.
And maybe he lied about his splits?
Yet he is good enough to run for a job, and you?
Tracktownfan wrote:
This is what he does for a living (run)...there are many of us out here with real jobs that can handle 7 min pace after long hours of work without a complaint. This sort of mentality can only come from a privileged mindset. Brooks shouldn't be paying him...he is sucking at the job.
In his latest video he says he is trying to lose 5 pounds before prelims.... pretty crazy, but if he does it without getting injured, I could see him making the team. 1:49 at his weight should be good for 1:45-6 at his new projected weight.
Personally I don't think Symmonds deserves all the hate. This is his last season and USA's will be his last competition unless he pulls of a top 3 spot. Personally I don't think he will even make the final, but it can't be ruled out. I think it's great to see a guy who knows his time is coming to an end just go out there and have fun with it. If he truly is that out of shape and this workout was an honest effort from him, at least he is enjoying his final few weeks as a pro. And he isn't hurting anybody by doing so. Godspeed, Nick.
the ONLY new star to surpass him is Clayton Murphy..and it is hard to say he has surpassed him at this stage...just remember how many US 800m titles he has...not going to be surpassed any time soon
What would be the physiological reason to do a hard workout a few days after his first race of the season and only 9-10 days before USA's????
There isn't a reason, so he did a light wrkt. Smart move. The race was the last hard effort
I can do that wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqN9rFVthhU&feature=youtu.be3 x 800 on trails - 2:27, 2:27, 2:28
3 x 200 on track (in spikes) - 27, 27, 26
I could have given Nick a run for his money today.
John Walker said somewhere that most of the year around he would do 4 x 1 mile in 4:40ish even in his late 30s he was capable of running 3:52. Clyde Hart says not to race in training..
Thank you.
Good coaches call it running by feel. Some top pros do not time anything.
Then again some run by minutes and not by miles!
Call Khadevis Robinson, Johnny Gray, or Joe Douglas if you do not believe me!
I agree m8
I guess. It many people are middle distance runners here because they don't like seeing he workouts that nick summonses posted, but you have to remember that he's had at least a decade of fitness on him.
He doesn't have to keep proving himself to an online forum. Why ruin a taper or go extra effort in a TRAINING session just to entertain a few runners?
What's important are the actual races. Let's not forget he graduated with a degree in biochemistry. I trust what nick is doing and he is one of my heroes in middle distance running.
Sick Nymmonds wrote:
Yeah really not sure where the hate on Symmonds from LR comes from. Maybe it's because he's outspoken against USATF and Nike, just like Pre was, and just like LR is today. Or is it because he's got a big personality with some showmanship (because we all know the last with T&F needs is more personality...) and likes to build his brand. God forbid a runner have interests outside of running right?
For people saying this is a pure marketing hoax and he's lying about his fitness so it seems cooler when he wins USA's and breaks 1:40 blah blah blah...what a load of shit haha. He's 34, raced once in the last year, and is coming off of injury. I think it's reasonable that he'd run shitty.
Why do you people keep saying that you are not sure where the dislike comes from? Can you not read? Every post that I've seen criticizing NS comes with specific reasons. You may not agree and that's fine but WTF with the bafflement and confusion?
I can do that wrote:
3 x 800 on trails - 2:27, 2:27, 2:28
3 x 200 on track (in spikes) - 27, 27, 26
I could have given Nick a run for his money today.
Yeah but can you run a 1:49 800?
Oh, he is ready. Great sandbagging . You watch, 1:46.
Everybody is a whore the second they *stop* working for Nike?
Someone else just mentioned this, but that's the thing - most of us can't run a 1:49 800. This workout (if he was going all out which he wasn't) doesn't even indicate that HE can run a 1:49. Above all running 2:20's was a quick "tempo" pace. In HS we use to do a workout like this- 4x800 at 30 sec faster then 800 pr when it was close to big races.
He also really seems to know how to turn it on during competition and suddenly become in better shape when it matters. I guess after years upon years of running muscle memory plays a role and he is able to snap into shape fast.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year