Grace Ping breaks 13yr 5000m WR again

If this Ping girl and Brandon Miller never get one second faster they are still legends in youth track and field. We're talking about a female and male who ran mid 16s and 1:51/4:02 before entering high school. That's sick. These are crazy numbers.

Best of luck to both of them in the future in whatever they do.

WTFBBQ wrote:

[quote]titan wrote:

'... it's diet that makes them genetic.

Statement OTD.

Internationally, age divisions are Youth, Junior, Senior.

what years are those for running athletics?

I can't find matching numbers they seem to be different for each sport

I know there is U18 and U20 in IAAF

but there might also be U16 and U23

Give her a few years of puberty, poor coaching and overzealous parents, and let's see where she is. She'll run her lifetime PR's before HS graduation. Guaranteed. Then we'll never hear from her again. How many times do we have to hear stories like this? How many of these girls ever go on to do anything on the national or world stage? None. Her performances are novelty items. That's about it.

She has great coaching. She is being coached by Tinman.

Her parents are athletes and also understand the importance of keeping things in check, which is why they have brought on Tinman to guide her.

We never know how these young girls will develop, but if she is a young athlete that wants to be the best she can be now, good for her. I hope she continues to have success

GOAT

UAG wrote:

If this Ping girl and Brandon Miller never get one second faster they are still legends in youth track and field. We're talking about a female and male who ran mid 16s and 1:51/4:02 before entering high school. That's sick. These are crazy numbers.

Best of luck to both of them in the future in whatever they do.

I agree with UAG. We need more voices like UAG's on this site.

Cheer for your kids folks! They are the biggest heroes in sports even if they are not 6ft9in now or ever. Enjoy parenting them and make them feel loved and special. When they face challenges later in life as we all do, at least they will remember a time past when they succeeded and set records and were heartily cheered by their parents. In this case, both sets of parents or fine people.

Kids, today, no longer dream to be POTUS when they grow up and fewer and fewer dream about participating in the Olympics. I think that we may have had something to do with that by allowing the environment to become overly negative. Let them dream as dreaming is a joy of childhood. They will have plenty of time to be "realistic" and boring.

retretter wrote:

Amazing. But there's no way this is going to last.

Totally agree this is a classic case of parental and coach abuse!!

Any family that moves to another state just so their middle school daughter can run in HS races needs their head examined.

Message to parents....SHE"S 14!!

Sorry I don't care if she says she wants to train like an adult. Children can not train high frequency and high intensity without injury. She'll be gone before Grade 12.

Give the girl a break wrote:

She has great coaching. She is being coached by Tinman.

Her parents are athletes and also understand the importance of keeping things in check, which is why they have brought on Tinman to guide her.

We never know how these young girls will develop, but if she is a young athlete that wants to be the best she can be now, good for her. I hope she continues to have success

If she had a great coach and athletic parents they would know that overtraining at a young age is a recipe for early departure from the sport.

What she has are overzealous parents and a coach that are using this child for their own personal glory.

I also blame the meet directors for encouraging this abuse by allowing a child to run in adult races.

Sorry guys I know you love the story right now but this is a story with an unhappy ending.

Run Doctor wrote:

[quote]retretter wrote:

Any family that moves to another state just so their middle school daughter can run in HS races needs their head examined.

Message to parents....SHE"S 14!!

Two years ago she won 3 state titles in Minnesota.

Then the family moved to a state where she could not run.

Just the opposite of your claim.

They are now moving back to Minnesota, but it isn't just so Grace can run in High School, If that was the case, they never would have moved.

Interesting idea. I wonder how much nutrition has to do with this.

random letter dude strikes wrote:

xcvxcvxv wrote:

That is obviously a fine performance for a 13 year old girl. Ethiopian and Kenyan female stars are somehow able to handle the move to adulthood. Why have American female teen phenoms struggled so much in recent years? I hope she makes it.

Genetics. Kenyan and Ethiopian women exhibit neotenic traits.

American women change in almost every case into an entirely different person.

not Carrie garritson wrote:

Give her a few years of puberty, poor coaching and overzealous parents, and let's see where she is. She'll run her lifetime PR's before HS graduation. Guaranteed. Then we'll never hear from her again. How many times do we have to hear stories like this? How many of these girls ever go on to do anything on the national or world stage? None. Her performances are novelty items. That's about it.

NO they are not novelty items, they are amazing accomplishments.

Will she ever be Dibaba or Ayana good? No

She'll be lucky to reach Huddle/Flanagan level stardom.

But that is solely because ALMOST NOBODY reaches that level and if she doesnt get there it will NOT be due to what she is doing today, it will be because she has a performance limit (like everyone).

colodinha wrote:

UAG wrote:

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I agree with UAG. We need more voices like UAG's on this site.

U A G = U Are Gay

stateroftheoblivious wrote:

Run Doctor wrote:

[quote]retretter wrote:

Any family that moves to another state just so their middle school daughter can run in HS races needs their head examined.

Message to parents....SHE"S 14!!

Two years ago she won 3 state titles in Minnesota.

Then the family moved to a state where she could not run.

Just the opposite of your claim.

They are now moving back to Minnesota, but it isn't just so Grace can run in High School, If that was the case, they never would have moved.

You actually have your facts wrong but there is no use arguing on a forum thread

Parental Control Squad wrote:

there is no use arguing on a forum thread

Which is an argument in itself.

If neoteny is the explanation for Ethiopian and Kenyan women, then why not great success for Japanese and Chinese women? Stephen Jay Gould claims in "The Mismeasure of Man" that Asians show more neoteny than any other racial group.

xcvxcvxv wrote:

If neoteny is the explanation for Ethiopian and Kenyan women, then why not great success for Japanese and Chinese women? Stephen Jay Gould claims in "The Mismeasure of Man" that Asians show more neoteny than any other racial group.

Um, Japanese and Chinese women HAVE been very successful. Even North Korea had a World Champ.

But this explanation was more to do with why Caucasians flame out at puberty at a high rate.