Grace Ping breaks 13yr 5000m WR again

Safe to assume her parents didn't make her run home since she broke the record?

So how are her genetics? Is she going to gain 25 pounds as a 15 year old.? We have seen this time and time again with genetically heavy Americans. Wish her the best, but . . . .

titan wrote:

We have seen this time and time again with genetically heavy Americans. Wish her the best, but . . . .

Americans aren't 'genetically heavy'... it's diet that makes them genetic. Unless you're referring to Samoans.

European American, Please.

Amazing. But there's no way this is going to last.

retretter wrote:

Amazing. But there's no way this is going to last.

She has a world record. Might last awhile, might not. She's out there giving her all and doing great things. Even if it doesn't last, she'll give it her all and dominate the next thing she does....unlike you.

We have not seen this time and time again. It's a world record so we have never seen a 5k by a 13 yr old at this age. No it may not last, but she reminds me of Hasay, only maybe a little better at this age. Maybe a Molly Huddle would have been even a little faster had she taken up running at a younger age but both the future and a hypothetical past are unknowable.

titan wrote:

So how are her genetics? Is she going to gain 25 pounds as a 15 year old.? We have seen this time and time again with genetically heavy Americans. Wish her the best, but . . . .

DPL wrote:

retretter wrote:

Amazing. But there's no way this is going to last.

She has a world record. Might last awhile, might not. She's out there giving her all and doing great things. Even if it doesn't last, she'll give it her all and dominate the next thing she does....unlike you.

Setting WRs doesn't mean you're going to dominate the next thing you do. What gave you that idea?

Also where did that guy mention any of his achievements so that you might know that he has not or will not dominate anything?

Maybe not, but I think we focus too much on what might come next rather than to appreciate what is right in front of us. Who knows what physical maturation will do to her running prowess? Whatever it does, she has clearly dedicated herself to the sport and achieved something that no one her age has ever achieved. Let's laud her for being the greatest girl runner to grace the track, rather than to focus on the woman she will become.

One of the biggest predictors for future behavior is past behavior. Yes, some crash and burn but others do not. How many world records do you have? How many times you beat your meat in a day doesn't count.

Ffhjgcx wrote:

We have not seen this time and time again. It's a world record so we have never seen a 5k by a 13 yr old at this age. No it may not last, but she reminds me of Hasay, only maybe a little better at this age. Maybe a Molly Huddle would have been even a little faster had she taken up running at a younger age but both the future and a hypothetical past are unknowable.

titan wrote:

So how are her genetics? Is she going to gain 25 pounds as a 15 year old.? We have seen this time and time again with genetically heavy Americans. Wish her the best, but . . . .

List the career accomplishments of the previous 5 age group record holders.

I don't know whether she'll pan out or not, but I thought I'd share my insight after seeing her at meets many times.

It doesn't seem like she's receiving any real pressure from her parents or coach. I think she has a little sister who races too, she ran 4:50 in the 1500 i think at Portland last weekend. They keep it fun, when her coach is cheering for her, he keeps things very positive and says things calmly like, "you'll have to pick it up just a little bit if you want to reach your goal today."

Anyway, I guess my point is that, from my perspective, they seem to do a great job of letting her set her own goals and not pushing her too hard to reach them. They are fully aware of her potential and the eventual real pressure.

Beardingus wrote:

says things calmly like, "you'll have to pick it up just a little bit if you want to reach your goal today."

Whatever makes them feel better....

No way she's this competitive in 4 years. Her body will change. It's unfortunate but the odds say it will happen. Young female phenoms hardly ever exceed and rarely maintain the level of performance they achieve before their bodies change.

Some US names...

Stacey Destin owns the 11-12 HJ girls record (a 3-event state champ and current freshman at Alabama)

Jordan Hassay has 13-14 yr records in the 1500 and 3000

Going a little higher...

Suzy Favor owns the 15-16 1500m record (it's faster than the 17-18 record)

Quincy Watts owns the 100 and 200 mens records for 17-18

Some Swimmers...

Missy Franklin has an 11-12 yr record in the 50 free and 200IM. She also has 4 records in the 13-14 category.

Amanda Beard also has 13-14 2 records.

Michael Phelps has a record in the boys 13-14 age group

Not all age group record holders become world beaters but age group record holders are obviously immensely talented. As others note, the danger in childhood sports stardom is burnout, particularly when the parents are pushing the kids. We all know what happened to that basketball prospect, LeBron James. Pssh!

All above are from

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/timesdocuments/relay-records/usa-swimming-national-a-g-records-l-c.pdf

and

http://www.usatf.org/statistics/Event-Records/JuniorOlympicTF.aspx

give me a break wrote:

No way she's this competitive in 4 years.

Just because you failed make your "dreams become reality" doesn't mean others will fail. Most likely your personal failures have been due to the very weak mind you exhibit in your comments.

Sheesh, give the kid a break. She can't run fast with all you naysayers on her back.

It's fine to appreciate her running fast and it's not good to be negative saying she will never be good. But I have the view that what she is doing now is going to be a big part of her not being successful in the future. Both mentally and physically she is most likely setting herself up for failure. So sure enjoy it. I'm not saying she is going to get worse because she is a girl, I'm saying she is going to get worse because she is so good right now.

0/10 wrote:

give me a break wrote:

No way she's this competitive in 4 years.

Just because you failed make your "dreams become reality" doesn't mean others will fail. Most likely your personal failures have been due to the very weak mind you exhibit in your comments.

Are you a simpleton?

retretter wrote:

Amazing. But there's no way this is going to last.

Maybe she is the Mondo of Distance running.