JBB wrote:
stuhdoidfddf wrote:I don't think he'll get DQ'd as he didn't cause any issues for the runner he passed (that i recall)
Well the race is no longer "Under Review" in the online results, so I guess he won't be DQed.
Should have been.
But it would have been a double hit as he brought his own guy down.
RunSprintRun wrote:
Just watched it; he def should not have been dq'd and the call was correct. His initial move was similar to the moves centro made in rio and mak in London to remain at the head of the pack: aggressive but legal.
Its not the move that matters, its the aftermath. He brought a guy down.
Its always the cover up.
He made and 'aggressive' pass, which led to the leader being taken down
I admit that I haven't watched the race. But I have to disagree that a dominant runner shouldn't be able to "throw down". This race brings tears to my eyes everytime I watch it. I submit:
Saruni cut in too early on Korir. Saruni only had himself to blame for tripping. Can't believe people want KORIR DQed. "You got cut off, let's DQ you!" Stupid. This was Saruni's fault.
Yes I agree that this is Saruni's fault. Korir made an aggressive inside pass, but all of that was over by the time Saruni cut infront of (apparently too closely) Korir. By that time, Korir was in lane one on the inside and it was Saruni's job to get fully around him or stay in lane 2. He did neither of those things.
If the VTech runner had went down, then it would be Korir's fault.
run with the wom wrote:
I admit that I haven't watched the race. But I have to disagree that a dominant runner shouldn't be able to "throw down". This race brings tears to my eyes everytime I watch it. I submit:
https://youtu.be/YKEOjWEzVGs
I agree. I am in awe every time I watch this race.
That post race interview was bizarre, Korir seemed dazed, and he can barely speak English. How the hell can he learn anything in college?
stuhdoidfddf wrote:
I don't think he'll get DQ'd as he didn't cause any issues for the runner he passed (that i recall)
He had no worries about being DQ'd because officials are worried the race card would be pulled, especially in the case of a poor, 26 year old frosh from a poor, impoverished nation. No troll.
How the hell anyone can claim Korir is under age 25 with a straight face is a laughable mystery.
CheechNChong wrote:
That post race interview was bizarre, Korir seemed dazed, and he can barely speak English. How the hell can he learn anything in college?
He's there to run. And like so many other jocks, his books are cooked in order for him to maintain eligibility. I agree that he looks old for college. He's definitely on the other side of 25. Great potential still, but a complete jackass.
Having just watched the video in slow motion several times- its clear that Piazza from VT's footfalls were all within lane 1 still as Korir passed him... Saran did indeed cut in front of Korir too early-just steps right in within a stride, yet appeared to trip over his own feet.
rojo wrote:
stuhdoidfddf wrote:Why on earth didn't the two UTEP frosh take it out and destroy the entire field? Very strange tactics considering they are better than everyone else.
Why because it's hard to lead from start to finish. Did you watch sub-2?? Drafting is big.
They were about to totally dominate and go 1-2. The only problem was Korir forgot that an 800 doesn't even start until 600. He didn't like being boxed in and panicked.
Here is what I wrote in another thread.
To me, the idea that you can get DQd for fouling your own teammate is absurd and it shows you why our sport isn't popular and is a joke at times.
I mean in football, you don't get called for pushing your own guy.
But trust me, you can get DQd for fouling your own teammate as it happened to me when I was coaching at Cornell.
And I think Korir may get DQd. If you didn't see the race, the two UTEP guys were moving up right before 600. Korir had been boxed in a bit and seemed antsy which is so stupid as he's so good, he wasn't going to lose. Anyway, he passed a Vtech runner on the inside while his teammate passed him on the outside. Korir lost his balance almost went into the infield but didn't. He then stabilized himself and took a few strides without incident. They were now starting the turn and his teammate who was slightly ahead got clipped from behind and went down.
When you watch it live, I can see how you say DQ KOrir - that's what I thought live - but I don't think the teammate had a stride and a half or two strides (how much are you supposed to have) to technically cut in.
Place Athlete Affiliation Time
1 Emmanuel KORIR FR UTEP 1:45.03
2 Isaiah HARRIS SO Penn State 1:45.40
3 Joseph WHITE JR Georgetown 1:45.73
4 Robert HEPPENSTALL SO Wake Forest 1:46.68
5 Andres ARROYO SR Florida 1:47.28
6 Drew PIAZZA SR Virginia Tech 1:47.58
7 Devin DIXON FR Texas A&M 1:49.32
8 Michael SARUNI FR UTEP 2:15.56
right about drafting...good to know the sport is progressing in the sense that the people at the tip of the spear are learning the basics.
right about having team mates being considered for DQ, imagine in the 7 th game, with the warriors up by three, then durant runs into curry, and gives the cavs three foul shots. actually it is worse, using track rules, we DQ the Warriors, right on the spot....
oh my golly.
What even caused the Saruni fall? Did Korir just get up too close and clip Saruni from behind? Also, I think the pass on Piazza was clean as well.
Korir's long stride may be a problem in traffic in races against the world elite. We'll see probably at World's this year in the final.
Did Saruni even know that Korir was there? Did he go by Piazza and not expect that someone would pass on the inside of lane 1, then when he felt clear of Piazza just cut in?
I am not saying that Korir did anything wrong, I am just curious if Saruni cut in so close because he didn't even realize someone else was there.
xcvxcvxv wrote:
Korir's long stride may be a problem in traffic in races against the world elite. We'll see probably at World's this year in the final.
Let see how he does at the Kenyan trials first.
ThatAverageRunner wrote:
Yes I agree that this is Saruni's fault. Korir made an aggressive inside pass, but all of that was over by the time Saruni cut infront of (apparently too closely) Korir. By that time, Korir was in lane one on the inside and it was Saruni's job to get fully around him or stay in lane 2. He did neither of those things.
If the VTech runner had went down, then it would be Korir's fault.
That's how see it.
No foul.
Sometimes runners go down.
Sabc szabo wrote:
xcvxcvxv wrote:Korir's long stride may be a problem in traffic in races against the world elite. We'll see probably at World's this year in the final.
Let see how he does at the Kenyan trials first.
Guys he's going to frontrun to gold.
No traffic in the lead.
1) In the 1970's when we raced 440 yard dash, 440 yard dash was a one turn stagger race. Tripping, pushing and collisions were a normal occurrence.
2) I do not expect the 800m WR to fall anytime soon. I expect more men every year will race sub-1:44 800m. Since we will have 800m races of near equals, what occurred on backstretch of last lap will continue to occur.
3) So best men/women earn medals, we need to consider a four turn stagger for 800m.
4) No DQ for yesterday's 800m race was the correct decision. Watch youtube of 1980 Olympic 800m men final. If Ovett was not DQ'ed that day, Korir was right not to be DQ'ed yesterday.