U.S. High School Sub Four Race

Something crazy about Slagowski is that his race had terrible, rainy conditions and he ran the last two laps by himself with no competition. Personally I think the kid is a beast. That being said, he wouldn't stand a chance against Ryun. I say Ryun, Webb, Slagowski, Fisher (as the man is an amazing race tactician), and Danielson top 5. The rest is kind of difficult to tell.

And slag did a solid negative split

Webb would win. Faster PR and was able to run 4:06 with a 1:52 last half in a high school race.

yesstiles wrote:

Remember, Jim Ryun ran 3:39.0 1500m (3:56 mile) on the crappiest torn-up dirt track ever his junior year of high school in 84F heat at the Olympic Trials.

Ryun also ran 3:58.3 all alone in a high school race on a slow dirt surface in 86F heat.

And this was over 50 years ago!!

Ryun wins hands-down.

Regardless Ryun led the way. We must never forget the pioneers.

Remember Paavo Nurmi, Emil Zatopek, Seb Coe, Steve Ovett, Steve Scott, etc.

Put Gerry Lindgren in the race,with modern surface,and modern shoes,and you have your winner.

u heard it here folks wrote:

Really? You pick the top 2 fastest highschoolers in history to go 1 & 2 in your theoretical race? Genius!

Yeah but it is also pretty much the only reasonable conclusion. Webb is like 4+ seconds faster than every other miler other than Ryun. That is huge. Throw in his 800m is at least as fast and we are not talking about a guy that is going to struggle much in a slow race. Ryun is only 2.5s faster but ran on a 1965 track. And Ryun was as fast as anyone else over 800ms.

Now clearly Webb had an awesome day and maybe if everything else clicked for the other runners they might be a bit closer but you going to have to come up with all types of crazy rational for anyone else being there. Maybe if they go through 1200 in 4:20 and some crazy stuff goes on.

The only thing that's wrong is how you spelled "highschool."

Gotta bee wrote:

jimmymango wrote:

Are Verzbicas and Ryun the only ones to do it in high-school-only races?

This is wrong Michael did it last year in a highschool race as well

steve petty wrote:

Put Gerry Lindgren in the race,with modern surface,and modern shoes,and you have your winner.

He'd be on pace to go under three minutes, but he'd collapse at the 1600m mark.

He's already run 3:56 last year and 3:56mid? this indoors. And 3:38 is worth 3:55-3:56 and he's beaten major scalps along the way. But keep preaching man!

dsrunner wrote:

Indoor tracks are way faster than they used to be. On the other hand, Danielson ran on an extremely fast dirt track, probably not worth much faster than 3:58.

Ryun hands down. 53.9 last 440y when he ran 3:55.3.

Webb second.

Danielson did not run on an "...extremely fast dirt track," as one earlier poster noted. He ran on a track that was well chewed up, the same goes for Liquori who was chasing Ryun (who basically cruised his 3:51.1, thinking he had run 3:56 or so because he didn't feel tired at all).

Ryun

Webb

Verzbickas

Liquori

Slagowski

toss up for the rest...

Gabe Jennings FTW. Stember 2nd.

Cinder Fella wrote:

Ryun (who basically cruised his 3:51.1, thinking he had run 3:56 or so because he didn't feel tired at all).

That's total BS. Ryun ran himself sick, and always knew what times he was running.

Michael Stember would take off sprinting ahead of the field like he had miscounted the laps with 600 to go, finish off that third lap in 56 and steam on ahead to the finish by a good five to ten seconds.

jpurser wrote:

Something crazy about Slagowski is that his race had terrible, rainy conditions and he ran the last two laps by himself with no competition. Personally I think the kid is a beast. That being said, he wouldn't stand a chance against Ryun. I say Ryun, Webb, Slagowski, Fisher (as the man is an amazing race tactician), and Danielson top 5. The rest is kind of difficult to tell.

Slagowski has done absolutely nothing since last year at this time. No chance of him being third.

I think that is beside the point.we are talking about a hypothetical race where all these high schoolers raced in their HIGH SCHOOL prime. So Webb running a 3:46 and Slagowski hardly running after high school is beside the point.

Dumb moderators. What's the point of deleting a post if you don't delete replies to the post? Some kind of token punishment for the OP?

Haha wrote:

50 years to life wrote:

I think Tim Danielson could kill them all.

Funny