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  • MurderDubs
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 8:40am CDT
    re: a lie too big
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    a lie too big wrote:

    FredGSanford wrote:

    Our PC snowflake media: Associated Press was reporting it as an "incident" most of the evening and recently was moved to call it "a possibly terror related event."
    Don't want to offend anybody now do we?

    In the European MSM, if the identity of the perpetrator is provided at all, they are usually referred to as "Asian" when a more accurate description would be Middle-Eastern.

    When the average person hears "Asian" they think East-Asian, like Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese... etc. If I were a member of one of these ethnicities, I'd be pretty pissed off at the MSM's attempt to cover for Islam.


    That has been going on for decades, way before this spate of terror attacks. I always figured Brits were just too lazy to tell their POC apart.
  • trollism
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    3 years ago 06/04/2017 8:49am CDT
    re: douglas burke
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    douglas burke wrote:

    The Manchester attack terrorist was HOME GROWN born and bred in Britain, YES he had CONVERTED to Islam, but he had ZERO ancestry (at least in recorded history from Muslim Countries).


    Zero ancestry, besides his two Libyan parents of course.

    Nothing else though, if you look past his whole immediate family.
  • observer99
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 2:21pm CDT
    re: trollism
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    Are the British as cowardly as the Americans? Will they all start chanting in terror, "Oh, no, the Moslems are too scary! We must build walls! We are frightened of them!!"
  • Flat Stanley
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 2:36pm CDT
    re: Jonathan Swift
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    Disgusted by some of the posts on here and the gloating. People have been killed for God sake have some respect.

    Disgusting how Trump is trying to use this for his own political agenda. Some of you idiots need to get a grip. Over 10000 Americans killed by guns every year and nothing done about gun control. You have the homicide rate of a third world country and your worried about Muslim terror attacks. Far, far safer in Europe than your crime ridden country. Far higher chance of being murdered in the USA than western Europe yet you talk like Europe is a war zone. Totally deluded by your idiotic right wing media.

    Some losers (probably born here like all the others have been so far) drove a van into people and attacked people with knives. Hardly a coordinated mastermind of a plot. Police shot them within 8 minutes. Then the media report and report it as and act of terror which is exactly what the losers want. They want to divide people and stop people living a normal life. Trump had one thing right. Stop calling them monsters and terrorists, simply call them losers. No doubt ISIS will claim they were behind it. They may be in a loose sort of way by influencing Behaviour but it's not like some head guy in Syria got on the phone and helped them carry it out and organise it.

    Yes people carrying out the attacks might have family who moved here one or two generations ago but you as Americans should understand why it's important for people to be able to resettle and start a new life. Most of the people committing these attacks are young vulnerable and recently radicalized not people with a deep understanding of faith.

    A guy murdered 9 people at a dinner party in Russia today. More than died in this recent incident. Best ban all Russians and stop attending dinner parties

    Some http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/man-shoots-nine-people-dead-dinner-party-row-russia-moscow-a7772266.html?amp

    Get some perspective. This is as much of media problem as anything. See the number of deaths by terrorism in Europe from The 70s until now. Far more were killed by terrorism in the 70s and 80s. When the IRA were murdering people we didn't ban all Irish people, or when ETA were killing people we didn't ban all Catalonian people. Normal Muslims are no more responsible for this than anyone else. I for one will go on tomorrow without worrying about a terror attack safe in the knowledge I am more likely to die by falling out of bed or being run over than be killed by an Islamic terrorist.
  • Another "stan" in the making
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 2:47pm CDT
    re: Flat Stanley
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    Flat Stanley wrote:

    Disgusted by some of the posts on here and the gloating. People have been killed for God sake have some respect.

    Disgusting how Trump is trying to use this for his own political agenda. Some of you idiots need to get a grip. Over 10000 Americans killed by guns every year and nothing done about gun control. You have the homicide rate of a third world country and your worried about Muslim terror attacks. Far, far safer in Europe than your crime ridden country. Far higher chance of being murdered in the USA than western Europe yet you talk like Europe is a war zone. Totally deluded by your idiotic right wing media.

    Some losers (probably born here like all the others have been so far) drove a van into people and attacked people with knives. Hardly a coordinated mastermind of a plot. Police shot them within 8 minutes. Then the media report and report it as and act of terror which is exactly what the losers want. They want to divide people and stop people living a normal life. Trump had one thing right. Stop calling them monsters and terrorists, simply call them losers. No doubt ISIS will claim they were behind it. They may be in a loose sort of way by influencing Behaviour but it's not like some head guy in Syria got on the phone and helped them carry it out and organise it.

    Yes people carrying out the attacks might have family who moved here one or two generations ago but you as Americans should understand why it's important for people to be able to resettle and start a new life. Most of the people committing these attacks are young vulnerable and recently radicalized not people with a deep understanding of faith.

    A guy murdered 9 people at a dinner party in Russia today. More than died in this recent incident. Best ban all Russians and stop attending dinner parties

    Some http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/man-shoots-nine-people-dead-dinner-party-row-russia-moscow-a7772266.html?amp

    Get some perspective. This is as much of media problem as anything. See the number of deaths by terrorism in Europe from The 70s until now. Far more were killed by terrorism in the 70s and 80s. When the IRA were murdering people we didn't ban all Irish people, or when ETA were killing people we didn't ban all Catalonian people. Normal Muslims are no more responsible for this than anyone else. I for one will go on tomorrow without worrying about a terror attack safe in the knowledge I am more likely to die by falling out of bed or being run over than be killed by an Islamic terrorist.

    No snowflake, this is what happens when bleeding heart liberals open the borders to all muslim rapefugees. Londonistan is to be avoided.
  • Bobby1
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 2:49pm CDT
    re: markschultz25
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    This is nothing to worry about, global warming is the main threat to Europe, at least according to Merkel.
  • ignorance = easy way out
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 2:51pm CDT
    re: Flat Stanley
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    Flat Stanley wrote:

    Kumbaya.


    This is exactly the kind of delusion that is killing off European cities/countries one by one.
  • Travel Agency
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 2:52pm CDT
    re: markschultz25
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    The Media never covers each time Semites are murdered in Gaza by European invaders sent by the Americans.
  • Chjkjv
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 2:52pm CDT
    re: a lie too big
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    a lie too big wrote:

    In the European MSM, if the identity of the perpetrator is provided at all, they are usually referred to as "Asian" when a more accurate description would be Middle-Eastern.

    When the average person hears "Asian" they think East-Asian, like Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese... etc. If I were a member of one of these ethnicities, I'd be pretty pissed off at the MSM's attempt to cover for Islam.

    In North America they do. In the UK they don't.
  • Op Ed
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 3:05pm CDT
    re: markschultz25
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    The US keeps the Middle East under fascist dictators with no provisions for liberty, justice, freedom, and independence, and people wonder why Islam is attacking London.
  • coach
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    3 years ago 06/04/2017 3:12pm CDT
    re: Op Ed
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    Op Ed wrote:

    The US keeps the Middle East under fascist dictators with no provisions for liberty, justice, freedom, and independence, and people wonder why Islam is attacking London.

    Why bomb London, Manchester, Paris , Brussels, Koblenz and cities in Africa and Asia if it's the US' fault?
  • Daryl detector
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 3:22pm CDT
    re: Op Ed
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    Op Ed wrote:

    The US keeps the Middle East under fascist dictators with no provisions for liberty, justice, freedom, and independence, and people wonder why Islam is attacking London.

    Hey Daryl, you've become a real fatty lately. Started losing your hair too, I see. At least the exterior is as ugly as the inside so I I guess there's some harmony there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKMfIGj3CwM
  • logicfailed
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 3:59pm CDT
    re: Coach
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    Coach wrote:

    Op Ed wrote:

    The US keeps the Middle East under fascist dictators with no provisions for liberty, justice, freedom, and independence, and people wonder why Islam is attacking London.

    Why bomb London, Manchester, Paris , Brussels, Koblenz and cities in Africa and Asia if it's the US' fault?


    The fact that you don't know the answer to this, which is known almost everywhere else in the world by adults and children, shows what a failure the US media has been, and in some sense, what a failure the Bin Laden etc propaganda machine has been in making any communications to the US (although, admittedly, the astoundingly ignorant US masses were perhaps never a primary communications target).
  • another deplorable
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 4:01pm CDT
    re: logicfailed
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    So tell us the reason, o wise one!
  • If African Americans started..
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 4:03pm CDT
    re: Another "stan" in the making
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    Another "stan" in the making wrote:

    Flat Stanley wrote:

    Disgusted by some of the posts on here and the gloating. People have been killed for God sake have some respect.

    Disgusting how Trump is trying to use this for his own political agenda. Some of you idiots need to get a grip. Over 10000 Americans killed by guns every year and nothing done about gun control. You have the homicide rate of a third world country and your worried about Muslim terror attacks. Far, far safer in Europe than your crime ridden country. Far higher chance of being murdered in the USA than western Europe yet you talk like Europe is a war zone. Totally deluded by your idiotic right wing media.

    Some losers (probably born here like all the others have been so far) drove a van into people and attacked people with knives. Hardly a coordinated mastermind of a plot. Police shot them within 8 minutes. Then the media report and report it as and act of terror which is exactly what the losers want. They want to divide people and stop people living a normal life. Trump had one thing right. Stop calling them monsters and terrorists, simply call them losers. No doubt ISIS will claim they were behind it. They may be in a loose sort of way by influencing Behaviour but it's not like some head guy in Syria got on the phone and helped them carry it out and organise it.

    Yes people carrying out the attacks might have family who moved here one or two generations ago but you as Americans should understand why it's important for people to be able to resettle and start a new life. Most of the people committing these attacks are young vulnerable and recently radicalized not people with a deep understanding of faith.

    A guy murdered 9 people at a dinner party in Russia today. More than died in this recent incident. Best ban all Russians and stop attending dinner parties

    Some http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/man-shoots-nine-people-dead-dinner-party-row-russia-moscow-a7772266.html?amp

    Get some perspective. This is as much of media problem as anything. See the number of deaths by terrorism in Europe from The 70s until now. Far more were killed by terrorism in the 70s and 80s. When the IRA were murdering people we didn't ban all Irish people, or when ETA were killing people we didn't ban all Catalonian people. Normal Muslims are no more responsible for this than anyone else. I for one will go on tomorrow without worrying about a terror attack safe in the knowledge I am more likely to die by falling out of bed or being run over than be killed by an Islamic terrorist.

    No snowflake, this is what happens when bleeding heart liberals open the borders to all muslim rapefugees. Londonistan is to be avoided.


    It wouldn't surprise me if the attackers turn out to be British born themselves. They may be the kids of immigrants but many, if not most, of the recent attacks in Europe have been perpetuated by people born in Europe of parents who immigrated decades prior to the attack.

    The only reason that is pointed out by the media and others is that it does call into question the rabid anti-current immigration positions of those on the right (i.e. It's similar to the arguments the right makes against gun control in the US--that is stopping current immigration wouldn't have stopped an attack if the attackers parents immigrated decades ago, similar to the arguement that banning a particular type of weapon (assault rifle) wouldn't have stopped a particular attack).

    We don't live in an era of Minority Report where you can arrest people for future crimes. If someone is a citizen of a country and they become radicalized it's hard to do anything to them--even if the authorities are aware of them--until they have committed a crime because of free speech related issues. It's also impossible to go back in time and prevent immigration from Muslim countries that occurred in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s--which is when many of the parents of recent terrorists immigrated to Europe and the US (I am thinking of the San Bernadino shootings for the US example).

    The problem in Europe appears to have many parallels to the problems of violence in US ghettos--where disenfranchised people (in the US case predominantly African Americans, in the European case predominantly Muslim)--live. The difference is African Americans seem to kill each other most of the time so white America can largely ignore it versus Europe where Muslims target affluent communities (I.e. "Others") rather then "their own kind".

    Americans better hope that their disenfranchised populations never figure out how much more politically beneficial it is to target the majority population or they'll be in a lot of trouble.
  • Hey Bruh, Constitution?
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 5:07pm CDT
    re: Trump2020OP
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    Trump2020OP wrote:

    Time to round up all persons on terror watch lists and hold for duration of war. Reasonable solution to unreasonable enemy.

    MAGA

    What if that list contains US citizens? You okay with that, bruh?

    I only ask becuase the GOP recently opposed a ban on selling guns to people on that list because--they claimed--that it would violate the second amendment rights of US citizens on that list. I am pretty sure detaining US citizens who have not yet committed a crime is also a violation of their constitutional rights. There are amendments other then the second you know.
  • K5_detector_the_real_1
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 6:45pm CDT
    re: Recognizer of K5
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    Recognizer of K5 wrote:

    Calm down, Daryl Basarab.

    LOL! ^This.
  • markschultz25
    registered
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 7:13pm CDT
    re: K5_detector_the_real_1
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    Canadian citizens among the dead. Hopefully this hits close enough to home that Canada will rethink it's own open door refugee policy...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/canadian-citizen-victims-killed-london-attack-article-1.3220354
  • there's more there
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 7:17pm CDT
    re: K5_detector_the_real_1
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    K5_detector_the_real_1 wrote:

    Recognizer of K5 wrote:

    Calm down, Daryl Basarab.

    LOL! ^This.


    Watch the video of the pudgy white boy Daryl above.
  • Have the perps been id'd?
    3 years ago 06/04/2017 7:19pm CDT
    re: markschultz25
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    Have they identified the perps? How do you know they were RECENT refugees? Based on recent history they are more likely to be British citizens whose parents immigrated in the 80s or 90s.

    markschultz25 wrote:

    Canadian citizens among the dead. Hopefully this hits close enough to home that Canada will rethink it's own open door refugee policy...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/canadian-citizen-victims-killed-london-attack-article-1.3220354
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