RIP: David Kiprotich - Kenyan athlete collapsed and died 7km into his training this morning

what?!? wrote:

I in no way want to turn this into a PED fight/argument/whatever. I don't know the athlete at all, so understand that I don't have any knowledge of what he was doing. What I do know is that it is unusual to see people of this age to collapse and die. Perhaps he has a pre-existing condition, and if so, my point is wrongly stated. What I do want to say is that I suspect some sort of drug use led to this, which makes me feel terrible about what athletes may feel like they have to do to get on the world stage.

I know this is LRC and there's a lot of negativity and animosity going on here, but I am not pointing fingers, or trying to create drama. I just feel sh*tty about what this could possible be. It just sucks. Peace to everyone here, and I hope no one takes my post the wrong way.

what?!? wrote:

I in no way want to turn this into a PED fight/argument/whatever. I don't know the athlete at all, so understand that I don't have any knowledge of what he was doing. What I do know is that it is unusual to see people of this age to collapse and die. Perhaps he has a pre-existing condition, and if so, my point is wrongly stated. What I do want to say is that I suspect some sort of drug use led to this, which makes me feel terrible about what athletes may feel like they have to do to get on the world stage.

I know this is LRC and there's a lot of negativity and animosity going on here, but I am not pointing fingers, or trying to create drama. I just feel sh*tty about what this could possible be. It just sucks. Peace to everyone here, and I hope no one takes my post the wrong way.

Ludd wrote:

Astonishing that you consider Obama anything but an exemplary role model and a fine president. You can thank Obama for unemployment below five percent, a budget deficit slashed by more than 50%, an Iran nuclear deal (note: not on other subjects, on nukes) that pushed their timetable for nukes back by decades at least), global climate accord, and an administration with virtually no scandals and very little dishonesty (a few factual errors here and there). What we have now are daily lies and scandals, an administration deeply involved in undermining our health care system, throwing tens of millions out of health insurance, bankrupting the gov't (literally, $ trillions in deficits set up by their plans), constant, daily national embarrassment, daily lying, deep involvements with the Russians, more family corruption than any other president, and undermining any attempts to limit pollution and support green energy and climate supports.

History will judge your views as even worse than those of Bush supporters, but the present already does it. There could hardly be more of a disastrous administration than that of Trump.

John Utah wrote:

I assume you are referring to Obama. Yes, that was a national embarrassment. We apologize for that.

My condolences to the family and friends of this athlete. Heart attacks are a rare but significant risk for runners.

Ludd wrote:

Astonishing that you consider Obama anything but an exemplary role model and a fine president. You can thank Obama for unemployment below five percent, a budget deficit slashed by more than 50%, an Iran nuclear deal (note: not on other subjects, on nukes) that pushed their timetable for nukes back by decades at least), global climate accord, and an administration with virtually no scandals and very little dishonesty (a few factual errors here and there). What we have now are daily lies and scandals, an administration deeply involved in undermining our health care system, throwing tens of millions out of health insurance, bankrupting the gov't (literally, $ trillions in deficits set up by their plans), constant, daily national embarrassment, daily lying, deep involvements with the Russians, more family corruption than any other president, and undermining any attempts to limit pollution and support green energy and climate supports.

History will judge your views as even worse than those of Bush supporters, but the present already does it. There could hardly be more of a disastrous administration than that of Trump.

John Utah wrote:

I assume you are referring to Obama. Yes, that was a national embarrassment. We apologize for that.

My condolences to the family and friends of this athlete. Heart attacks are a rare but significant risk for runners.

George Hirsch wrote:

Ludd wrote:

Astonishing that you consider Obama anything but an exemplary role model and a fine president. You can thank Obama for unemployment below five percent, a budget deficit slashed by more than 50%, an Iran nuclear deal (note: not on other subjects, on nukes) that pushed their timetable for nukes back by decades at least), global climate accord, and an administration with virtually no scandals and very little dishonesty (a few factual errors here and there). What we have now are daily lies and scandals, an administration deeply involved in undermining our health care system, throwing tens of millions out of health insurance, bankrupting the gov't (literally, $ trillions in deficits set up by their plans), constant, daily national embarrassment, daily lying, deep involvements with the Russians, more family corruption than any other president, and undermining any attempts to limit pollution and support green energy and climate supports.

History will judge your views as even worse than those of Bush supporters, but the present already does it. There could hardly be more of a disastrous administration than that of Trump.

My condolences to the family and friends of this athlete. Heart attacks are a rare but significant risk for runners.

Well put Ludd. People like the person calling himself "John Utah" rarely truly believe what they say. They get a cheap thrill out of saying inflammatory things here that they would never put their real name to in a public forum, just as they would never admit to how afflicted they are by deep-seeded racism.