Official 2017 D3 Cross Country Thread

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Henyom

3 years ago 05/30/2017 12:04pm CDT

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Now that track is over, it seems like it's time to start this up.

Individually? Seems hard to bet against Darin Lau. Dude killed it at Natties, but IGC is the top returner and 1500 champion. Dhruvil Patel had a killer indoor season and followed it up with a very solid outdoor season. It looks 16 all-americans are returning from xc, so it should be very interesting individually now that LaMere is gone.

Team wise, North Central seems like the obvious favorite. They return three all-americans and certainly have many more guys ready to step up. Behind them, teams like LaCrosse, Eau-Claire, Loras, Williams, MIT and Amherst (and anyone I might be forgetting) will compete for the podium

I'm gonna say Lau takes the victory, and North Central repeats as team champion
Not Amherst

3 years ago 05/30/2017 1:06pm CDT
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What's the status on Amherst? Are there any continuing impacts? I think I saw they where going to get a new coach
Dead Seayalater

3 years ago 05/30/2017 1:15pm CDT
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Amherst is absolutely finished. I hear their administration wants to kill the program.
statman

3 years ago 05/30/2017 2:31pm CDT
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Here are the top returning teams based on 5k/10k time (slightly more weight given to 10k times). If two schools were close I went with the one that placed higher last year at nationals

1 NCC
Patel, Dhruvil 14:15.65
McKenna, Nolan 14:22.89
Hird, Zach 14:46.33
Norvell, Matthew 14:50.70 30:13.00
Sismelich, Steven 15:01.96 31:32.50

2 Geneseo
Garcia-Cassani, Isaac 14:16.80
Burks, Alex 14:54.37 31:06.40
Tate, Jackson 15:01.02 32:00.72
Pulvidente, Connor 15:09.71 31:59.24
Jorgensen, Matt 15:21.90

3 Johns Hopkins
Murray, PJ 14:55.98
Doran, Alex 14:57.25
Wall, Liam 14:57.51
Hickson, Oliver 14:58.10 31:27.08
Patel 14:58.76

4 Wash U
O'gara, David 15:38.87 30:15.79
Johnsrud, Peter 14:58.75 31:17.23
Quaroni, Marco 15:07.28
d'Ambrosio, Paul 15:08.69
Simon, Kirby 15:09.40

5 La-Crosse
Schultz, Thomas 14:43.93 30:43.28
Schaeder, Joshua 14:54.07
Nault, Tyler 15:06.03 31:13.40
Shoemaker-Allen, Zach 15:00.94
Weisse, Jonah 15:48.72 32:29.79

6 Williams
Anderson, Austin 14:30.05
Decker, Ben 15:15.84 31:08.12
Cohen, Zeke 15:10.93
Morris, Mitchell 14:51.62 31:50.00
McGovern , Will 15:16.69 31:57.71

7 MIT
Maloney, Dennis 14:37.95 30:07.93
Derrick, Josh 15:15.15
Goldy, Steven 15:16.11
Weiss, Daniel 15:20.28 31:46.73
Walter, David 15:20.43 33:12.17

8 Amherst
Brossy, Cosmo 14:41.14 31:11.83
Ricciardelli, Clark 14:59.09 31:02.95
Meijer, Tucker 15:12.05 32:18.95
Ferguson-Dryden, Spencer 15:42.48
Zambrano, Aaron 15:44.55 34:05.50

9 Loras
Tope, Mason 14:52.34 30:41.75
Sevcik, Timothy 14:48.99
Wolak, Patrick 15:24.53
Ensminger, Colin 15:47.37
Stoppelman, John 15:52.54 33:41.96

10 Eau Claire
Lau, Darin 14:13.21
Paucek, Brendon 15:14.51
Carmichael, Ben 15:32.73
Bachmeier, David 15:38.33
Dupont, Anthony 15:49.02 32:53.08

Mostly what we'd expect, except for that Hopkins is very high up there. No 10k times from these guys, but if their 5ks translate well to cross they could challenge Geneseo for sure. NCC looks pretty much unbeatable, but crazier things have hapenned. Most teams will need to count on their 4th or 5th guys to have good days if they'll want to be in podium contention.

This is also of course all super-preliminary and the actual pecking order will become more clear in October.

Feel free to add if you think your team is relevant too (sorry CMS, but you've got one foot in the grave)
Do research or gtfo

3 years ago 05/30/2017 2:36pm CDT
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You're missing many abroad people from both Williams and Amherst. If you're going to make a top 10 prediction, actually put some time into your work or gtfo.
engineer this

3 years ago 05/30/2017 3:48pm CDT
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Is this the year MIT breaks through? They got a stud up front and seem to have at least 1 impact frosh every year. I could see them taking the big one at Nattys.

YOOOOOO

3 years ago 05/30/2017 5:03pm CDT
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St. Olaf
Timm, Paul 15:04.84 31:16.21
Ketola, Keith 15:04.85 33:08.65
Lerdall, Thomas 15:08.92
Henschel, Jack 15:09.15
Aarness, Tayler 15:37.96
EliteFeet

3 years ago 05/30/2017 7:07pm CDT
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Haverford?

Henry Woods 14:26
Dylan Gearinger 14:33
Ryan Herlihy 14:57
Greg Morgan 14:58 (3:51 1500)
Graham Peet 15:01 (9:19 steeple)

Plus they absolutely smoked hopkins in the distance events at their conference meet. Though they seemed to be tactical races so who knows.
Midbest

3 years ago 05/30/2017 7:45pm CDT
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You are missing notable All-Americans from Eau Claire and North Central. Since Nationals is on an actual XC course this year expect the Midwest to lay rail down once again. Eau Claire should be much higher. I expect them, Wash U, and LAX to finish ahead of Johns Hopkins....count it 4 Midwest teams in the top 5. East coast teams will be DEVASTATED when they find out the course is not only hilly but also a full 8k.
Badabing

3 years ago 05/30/2017 10:01pm CDT
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Midbest wrote:

You are missing notable All-Americans from Eau Claire and North Central. Since Nationals is on an actual XC course this year expect the Midwest to lay rail down once again. Eau Claire should be much higher. I expect them, Wash U, and LAX to finish ahead of Johns Hopkins....count it 4 Midwest teams in the top 5. East coast teams will be DEVASTATED when they find out the course is not only hilly but also a full 8k.

Hilly? That's rich, coming from the Midwest. The east coast actually runs hilly courses. I think a non-negligible reason for the Midwest's success is that nationals has historically been a pancake flat course, where the superior xc fitness of the east coast doesn't really come into play.
peanut gallery

3 years ago 05/30/2017 10:26pm CDT
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Lol what fitness from the East Coast?
Easy east

3 years ago 05/31/2017 7:57am CDT
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There are more d3 schools in New York alone than the entire Midwest, sorry the talent gets spread out more so there aren't "super teams". Cavs in 6!

Gin Mill

3 years ago 05/31/2017 8:47am CDT
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Badabing wrote:

Midbest wrote:

You are missing notable All-Americans from Eau Claire and North Central. Since Nationals is on an actual XC course this year expect the Midwest to lay rail down once again. Eau Claire should be much higher. I expect them, Wash U, and LAX to finish ahead of Johns Hopkins....count it 4 Midwest teams in the top 5. East coast teams will be DEVASTATED when they find out the course is not only hilly but also a full 8k.

Hilly? That's rich, coming from the Midwest. The east coast actually runs hilly courses. I think a non-negligible reason for the Midwest's success is that nationals has historically been a pancake flat course, where the superior xc fitness of the east coast doesn't really come into play.

Pretty sure the post by "Midbest" was sarcastic...
Parody of itself

3 years ago 05/31/2017 10:02am CDT
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Gin Mill wrote:

Badabing wrote:

Midbest wrote:

You are missing notable All-Americans from Eau Claire and North Central. Since Nationals is on an actual XC course this year expect the Midwest to lay rail down once again. Eau Claire should be much higher. I expect them, Wash U, and LAX to finish ahead of Johns Hopkins....count it 4 Midwest teams in the top 5. East coast teams will be DEVASTATED when they find out the course is not only hilly but also a full 8k.

Hilly? That's rich, coming from the Midwest. The east coast actually runs hilly courses. I think a non-negligible reason for the Midwest's success is that nationals has historically been a pancake flat course, where the superior xc fitness of the east coast doesn't really come into play.

Pretty sure the post by "Midbest" was sarcastic...

Midbest was factually correct about Eau Claire and North Central. It's really unclear whether it's sarcasm or boasting.
STOUT LAGER

3 years ago 06/01/2017 11:30am CDT
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the wiac will be throwing ANOTHER giant party this year hosted by reid zanoya. LaMere will be wearing his poop filled shorts from indoor conference 2013 5k that he has yet to clean. Tim Nelson will be continuing to shotgun beers with Dawson Miller, who is now the head coach at WW. All the while, Thorson is painting a picture of those guys shotgunning with zanoya posing nude behind the shotgunning national champions. he makes sure he gets a snapchat of the fun. La Crosse won't be invited again since no one likes them in Wisconsin after more success. Brietbach will be the first ever coach to be fired from multiple teams as he coaches Eau Claire, Parkside, and Marquette all into the ground. Dan Sullivan shows up really late to the party but no one recognizes him since he has been irrelevant for so many years.
Henyom

3 years ago 06/04/2017 1:45pm CDT
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Any stud incoming freshman that anyone knows about?
??????????????

3 years ago 06/04/2017 2:04pm CDT
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Henyom wrote:

Any stud incoming freshman that anyone knows about?

MIT's getting a 4:16/9:11 (16/32) guy.
sdfasdfasdgghhhh

3 years ago 06/04/2017 4:44pm CDT
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Rumor has it that the UW Eau Clair cross country coach is leaving to Furman to turn around their men's volleyball team
PP

3 years ago 06/04/2017 5:16pm CDT
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Henyom wrote:

Any stud incoming freshman that anyone knows about?

MIT's getting a 4:16/9:11 (16/32) guy.[/quote]

Pomona Pitzer's getting a 9:03 guy
howdy dowdy

3 years ago 06/04/2017 8:48pm CDT
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Henyom wrote:

Any stud incoming freshman that anyone knows about?

Sam Pinkowski (1:56/4:16/9:07) going to Wartburg.