Official 2017 D3 Cross Country Thread

What's the status on Amherst? Are there any continuing impacts? I think I saw they where going to get a new coach

Amherst is absolutely finished. I hear their administration wants to kill the program.

Here are the top returning teams based on 5k/10k time (slightly more weight given to 10k times). If two schools were close I went with the one that placed higher last year at nationals

1 NCC

Patel, Dhruvil 14:15.65

McKenna, Nolan 14:22.89

Hird, Zach 14:46.33

Norvell, Matthew 14:50.70 30:13.00

Sismelich, Steven 15:01.96 31:32.50

2 Geneseo

Garcia-Cassani, Isaac 14:16.80

Burks, Alex 14:54.37 31:06.40

Tate, Jackson 15:01.02 32:00.72

Pulvidente, Connor 15:09.71 31:59.24

Jorgensen, Matt 15:21.90

3 Johns Hopkins

Murray, PJ 14:55.98

Doran, Alex 14:57.25

Wall, Liam 14:57.51

Hickson, Oliver 14:58.10 31:27.08

Patel 14:58.76

4 Wash U

O'gara, David 15:38.87 30:15.79

Johnsrud, Peter 14:58.75 31:17.23

Quaroni, Marco 15:07.28

d'Ambrosio, Paul 15:08.69

Simon, Kirby 15:09.40

5 La-Crosse

Schultz, Thomas 14:43.93 30:43.28

Schaeder, Joshua 14:54.07

Nault, Tyler 15:06.03 31:13.40

Shoemaker-Allen, Zach 15:00.94

Weisse, Jonah 15:48.72 32:29.79

6 Williams

Anderson, Austin 14:30.05

Decker, Ben 15:15.84 31:08.12

Cohen, Zeke 15:10.93

Morris, Mitchell 14:51.62 31:50.00

McGovern , Will 15:16.69 31:57.71

7 MIT

Maloney, Dennis 14:37.95 30:07.93

Derrick, Josh 15:15.15

Goldy, Steven 15:16.11

Weiss, Daniel 15:20.28 31:46.73

Walter, David 15:20.43 33:12.17

8 Amherst

Brossy, Cosmo 14:41.14 31:11.83

Ricciardelli, Clark 14:59.09 31:02.95

Meijer, Tucker 15:12.05 32:18.95

Ferguson-Dryden, Spencer 15:42.48

Zambrano, Aaron 15:44.55 34:05.50

9 Loras

Tope, Mason 14:52.34 30:41.75

Sevcik, Timothy 14:48.99

Wolak, Patrick 15:24.53

Ensminger, Colin 15:47.37

Stoppelman, John 15:52.54 33:41.96

10 Eau Claire

Lau, Darin 14:13.21

Paucek, Brendon 15:14.51

Carmichael, Ben 15:32.73

Bachmeier, David 15:38.33

Dupont, Anthony 15:49.02 32:53.08

Mostly what we'd expect, except for that Hopkins is very high up there. No 10k times from these guys, but if their 5ks translate well to cross they could challenge Geneseo for sure. NCC looks pretty much unbeatable, but crazier things have hapenned. Most teams will need to count on their 4th or 5th guys to have good days if they'll want to be in podium contention.

This is also of course all super-preliminary and the actual pecking order will become more clear in October.

Feel free to add if you think your team is relevant too (sorry CMS, but you've got one foot in the grave)

You're missing many abroad people from both Williams and Amherst. If you're going to make a top 10 prediction, actually put some time into your work or gtfo.

Is this the year MIT breaks through? They got a stud up front and seem to have at least 1 impact frosh every year. I could see them taking the big one at Nattys.

St. Olaf

Timm, Paul 15:04.84 31:16.21

Ketola, Keith 15:04.85 33:08.65

Lerdall, Thomas 15:08.92

Henschel, Jack 15:09.15

Aarness, Tayler 15:37.96

Haverford?

Henry Woods 14:26

Dylan Gearinger 14:33

Ryan Herlihy 14:57

Greg Morgan 14:58 (3:51 1500)

Graham Peet 15:01 (9:19 steeple)

Plus they absolutely smoked hopkins in the distance events at their conference meet. Though they seemed to be tactical races so who knows.

You are missing notable All-Americans from Eau Claire and North Central. Since Nationals is on an actual XC course this year expect the Midwest to lay rail down once again. Eau Claire should be much higher. I expect them, Wash U, and LAX to finish ahead of Johns Hopkins....count it 4 Midwest teams in the top 5. East coast teams will be DEVASTATED when they find out the course is not only hilly but also a full 8k.

Midbest wrote:

You are missing notable All-Americans from Eau Claire and North Central. Since Nationals is on an actual XC course this year expect the Midwest to lay rail down once again. Eau Claire should be much higher. I expect them, Wash U, and LAX to finish ahead of Johns Hopkins....count it 4 Midwest teams in the top 5. East coast teams will be DEVASTATED when they find out the course is not only hilly but also a full 8k.

Hilly? That's rich, coming from the Midwest. The east coast actually runs hilly courses. I think a non-negligible reason for the Midwest's success is that nationals has historically been a pancake flat course, where the superior xc fitness of the east coast doesn't really come into play.

Lol what fitness from the East Coast?

There are more d3 schools in New York alone than the entire Midwest, sorry the talent gets spread out more so there aren't "super teams". Cavs in 6!

Badabing wrote:

Midbest wrote:

You are missing notable All-Americans from Eau Claire and North Central. Since Nationals is on an actual XC course this year expect the Midwest to lay rail down once again. Eau Claire should be much higher. I expect them, Wash U, and LAX to finish ahead of Johns Hopkins....count it 4 Midwest teams in the top 5. East coast teams will be DEVASTATED when they find out the course is not only hilly but also a full 8k.

Hilly? That's rich, coming from the Midwest. The east coast actually runs hilly courses. I think a non-negligible reason for the Midwest's success is that nationals has historically been a pancake flat course, where the superior xc fitness of the east coast doesn't really come into play.

Pretty sure the post by "Midbest" was sarcastic...

Gin Mill wrote:

Badabing wrote:

Hilly? That's rich, coming from the Midwest. The east coast actually runs hilly courses. I think a non-negligible reason for the Midwest's success is that nationals has historically been a pancake flat course, where the superior xc fitness of the east coast doesn't really come into play.

Pretty sure the post by "Midbest" was sarcastic...

Midbest was factually correct about Eau Claire and North Central. It's really unclear whether it's sarcasm or boasting.

the wiac will be throwing ANOTHER giant party this year hosted by reid zanoya. LaMere will be wearing his poop filled shorts from indoor conference 2013 5k that he has yet to clean. Tim Nelson will be continuing to shotgun beers with Dawson Miller, who is now the head coach at WW. All the while, Thorson is painting a picture of those guys shotgunning with zanoya posing nude behind the shotgunning national champions. he makes sure he gets a snapchat of the fun. La Crosse won't be invited again since no one likes them in Wisconsin after more success. Brietbach will be the first ever coach to be fired from multiple teams as he coaches Eau Claire, Parkside, and Marquette all into the ground. Dan Sullivan shows up really late to the party but no one recognizes him since he has been irrelevant for so many years.

Any stud incoming freshman that anyone knows about?

Henyom wrote:

Any stud incoming freshman that anyone knows about?

MIT's getting a 4:16/9:11 (16/32) guy.

Rumor has it that the UW Eau Clair cross country coach is leaving to Furman to turn around their men's volleyball team

Henyom wrote:

Any stud incoming freshman that anyone knows about?

MIT's getting a 4:16/9:11 (16/32) guy.[/quote]

Pomona Pitzer's getting a 9:03 guy

Henyom wrote:

Any stud incoming freshman that anyone knows about?

Sam Pinkowski (1:56/4:16/9:07) going to Wartburg.