BBC/ProPublica Strike Again - Dr. Jeffrey Brown also doctored Magness' medical records before giving them to USADA

wait, now they are talking about punishing Magness?

yeah punish the whistleblowers, that will definitely get people to step forward and testify

Magness was a potential cheat before he was a whistleblower. He was seeing Dr. Brown (along with the Gouchers and others Wetmore athletes) long before the NOP ever came into the picture and he is the only one, from what I can tell, that can be proven to have taken more than 50ml of the legal supplement, L-Carnitine.

I fear Epstein and Bloom will continually take the bait from this possible pathological liar and narcissist without any skepticism? Just because someone says it's true doesn't mean it's true (think Duke LAX).

By the way, medical records get updated all of the time after the patient leaves with their visit copy. Sorry to burst everyone's bubble on that.

Pro Publica's David Epstein and the BBC's Mark Daly - the two reporters who first brought the actions of Alberto Salazar and Dr. Jeffrey Brown into the the public's eye - have a new piece out this morning.

In it, Steve Magness reveals the Dr. Brown doctored the medical reports that Dr Brown sent to USADA for Steve Magness to make it look like he gave Magness a full medical review before injecting him with L-Carnitine.

https://www.propublica.org/article/records-in-nike-oregon-alberto-salazar-doping-investigation-do-not-match

Oops.

We didn't realize our own programmer had started a thread on the topic. So we've merged the two.

but why wrote:

wait, now they are talking about punishing Magness?

yeah punish the whistleblowers, that will definitely get people to step forward and testify

Magness might get—what, a coaching ban?—penalized only 'if' he was in on the doctoring of the medical records. But, the responsibility for actually doing that is the doctor. If Magness was in on it then he should willing accept whatever comes his way.

Punishment wrote:

but why wrote:

wait, now they are talking about punishing Magness?

yeah punish the whistleblowers, that will definitely get people to step forward and testify

Magness might get—what, a coaching ban?—penalized only 'if' he was in on the doctoring of the medical records. But, the responsibility for actually doing that is the doctor. If Magness was in on it then he should willing accept whatever comes his way.

Magness didn't doctor the records. He provided his own medical records received before USADA got their copy to Epstein it seems.

Read both stories and it clearly shows that Magness compared the medical records given to him from Dr. Brown with the ones that were in the leaked USADA report and noted they were different.

Why were they different?

That's the speculation.

But it's pretty clear that Dr. Brown altered Magness medical records that he sent to USADA.

More like Magness should be hired by the USADA or USATF or otherwise be promoted somehow.

Punishing whistleblowers is Trump's America.

Nice try buddy.

I guess what you are saying is that doctors occasionally update medical records to be more thorough but anyone with common sense realize that Dr. Brown is adding things to try to cover his butt. In this case, Magness says a full exam didn't take place yet Dr. Brown indicated that it did when he turned over the altered documents to USADA. Thankfully, Magness 's new doctor had already requested his medical records which clearly didn't indicate a full exam.

IN the previous examples, Dr. Brown added in annotations indicating the treatment was conveniently below 50 ml when all science on the matter indicates that is a scientific impossibility.

Can you please give me a single example of where Magness has lied?

Everything he has said has actually been proven to be true. The more that we learn, the more we learn why he was suspicious about what was going on.

For example, Magness said Rupp was on a testosterone supplement in HS and provided a picture of a document that he claimed was taken from a Nike lab report. Rather than deny this explosive allegation and claim the document was forged, Salazar admitted Rupp was on a supplement. Magness said that Salazar tested tesosterone on his own son - Salazar again admitted that Magness was correct.

Yes, there is a possibility that Magness gets sanctioned as he took more than 50 ml and was an assistant coach during all of this time frame, but to me, that's absurd. He's the whole reason why this is public. He deserved a medal, not a sanction.

I've told him if he ends up losing his job for a period of time, I personally will start an online fundraising goal to help support him so he can continue to coach.

Brown should have learned from Nixon - sometimes the coverup can be worse than the crime. Here the coverup clearly makes anyone with common sense understand he is trying to hide something.

Magness looks so shady in that picture, I don't believe anything that comes from his mouth.

Well, the take-a-way that I get from this is that Dr. Brown is almost surely able to be sanctioned as an ASP by USADA. He may be liable to sanction by the Texas Medical Board as well for changing records.

I don't think it materially alters any potential sanctions against Salazar, Magness, or any of the athletes. Unless at some point they can get Dr. Brown to roll, but I still consider that pretty unlikely.

history major wrote:

Brown should have learned from Nixon - sometimes the coverup can be worse than the crime. Here the coverup clearly makes anyone with common sense understand he is trying to hide something.

Brown --he's no doctor-- is making a load of money playing the game AlSal wants. The reason Salazar, Brown, Rupp, Farah, etc. are playing the game is simple; money.

I'm not your buddy. I would never hang out with a person with poor moral character. Your website is a gossip rag.

Magness lied about why he was fired. That's one lie of many.

Go ahead and start your online fund for Magness. Just remember, if he's sanctioned - he can't coach either.

jimmy chonga wrote:

Magness looks so shady in that picture, I don't believe anything that comes from his mouth.

Magness seems to be both whistle blower and active participant in this mess. At what point did he conclude that what he was doing was wrong?

Salazar told Magness to research L-Carantine and then inject himself with it to test the results. Magness, a self proclaimed science nut with a masters degree, knew it was beyond WADA limitations and was illegal. Yet, Magness did it.

Magness is a cheat. He helped people cheat. He only ratted on Salazar and NOP after he got canned. He is just as much involved as anyone else in this whole charade.

He knew what he was doing was wrong from the get go. The dude has a masters in exercise science from GWU! How did he not know? The Magness praise is ridiculous. He reported to USADA to get himself far out in front.

The irony of the whole situation is that he's wearing a Nike shirt in that ProPublica piece. Houston (and partially Nike) still pay this dude to coach there?!

Outside of Barrazza, he hasn't coached anyone that good. Chris Ibarra, who was a 1:49 800m high school runner, has gotten WORSE since getting to his magesty.

https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/4523644/Houston/Chris_Ibarra.html

He's active and was/is complicit in this whole mess.

jimmy chonga wrote:

Magness looks so shady in that picture, I don't believe anything that comes from his mouth.

He does take inexplicably terrible pictures. His twitter photo is the same way. Why can't he smile, or at least stop squinting and look at the camera?

The audacity of it all!

The jackals that come on here and criticise whistle-blowers make me sick. If this sport is to be cleaned, it's going to require more people on the inside to follow their conscience as Magness has.