2017 D3 Atlantic Region XC

Isaac: D E V A S T A T E D

Isaac was saving it for his turkey trot

results????

This timing company sucks

Geneseo unofficially 10th,

RPI 13th.

Teams

11. Geneseo

14. RPI

23. Rowan

27. RIT

28. NYU

Individuals:

38. Hernandez

79. Tuohy

87. Akerley

145. Wasko

150. Greenseich

159. Scarlett

272. Saponara

Chokes all around, oops

2 years in a row the AR forgets to show up. Remember when the AR was good? #TheNewSouthRegion

Morons wrote:

IGC beats Grant by 12-15 seconds, and battles for the win.

Grant not at the level of the top 3 in the country. Sorry but true.

Grant had a hard on the whole race at Regionals to beat IGC, who looked disinterested in chasing... as he should. He's got real fish to fry next week. The guy is racing over 5x the distance he likes. Any mid D guy can tell you, they hate going to well every weekend in XC. He'll save that big performance for when it matters.

*cough*

Men's individuals the only real "choke" was IGC and Otto, and even GOC couldn't hang with Lau and the NCC men over that last 2K, but by no means did he choke. Did Veltre scrape into the top 10? Team wise Geneseo didn't choke as much as perform sub-par, RPI stacked up exactly where they were. Rowan/RIT/NYU are irrelevant team-wise, but just performed subpar. Didn't sh*t the bed like last year.

On the woman's side however, a really strong showing outside of Taryn choking. Denise Ibarra placed All-American, the RPI women jumped to 10th place which is a stupendous performance compared to their ranking. SLU women nothing crazy but still a strong performance without Megan Kellogg.

I don't know about that; Genny was ranked 4th coming in and didn't crack the top 10. I would consider that a choke.

suck flu wrote:

Men's individuals the only real "choke" was IGC and Otto, and even GOC couldn't hang with Lau and the NCC men over that last 2K, but by no means did he choke. Did Veltre scrape into the top 10? Team wise Geneseo didn't choke as much as perform sub-par, RPI stacked up exactly where they were. Rowan/RIT/NYU are irrelevant team-wise, but just performed subpar. Didn't sh*t the bed like last year.

On the woman's side however, a really strong showing outside of Taryn choking. Denise Ibarra placed All-American, the RPI women jumped to 10th place which is a stupendous performance compared to their ranking. SLU women nothing crazy but still a strong performance without Megan Kellogg.

Rowan and NYU finished ahead of where they were ranked so don't see how that is subpar. Rowan in 23rd tied their best rank from the year and exceeded their prenational rank by 5, NYU in 28th exceeded their best ranking of 29th and prenational ranking 32. RIT in 27th may be worse than what they were ranked going into nationals but is still better than most thought they'd be before regionals and not far off their prenational (and only) ranking of 23rd. RIT ran about how they did all year except at regionals where they ran great. If you are ranked top 5 all year and finish out of the top 10 (esp to teams you previously beat) that is the definition of choking. Finishing below your rank and not choking is a team like Haverford who lost 1 of their top 3 somewhere after 3 miles preventing them from a 2nd/3rd finish.

Also how do you say SLU women had a strong performance finishing last?

thanks for taking everyones bids and choking like always AR

At Large wrote:

Also how do you say SLU women had a strong performance finishing last?

I wouldn’t agree saying they had a “strong performance” but I also wouldn’t say they ran bad. Had they had Kellogg (most likely top 20-30), then they get top 25. Hard when your top runner doesn’t run in a race like that. Ithaca women top 10 finish after being ranked in the 20s basically all year, really came together even with Cordani not running that well. RPI has a huge performance and brought them to 10th, really impressed with that. Geneseo men did bad. I knew they were overrated all year, but they weren’t even top 10. Women finished around what I thought they should have and weren’t far off their ranking so they did fine. Unfortunately RITs orange hair didn’t make a difference for them, as Otto and Bailey both crawled

The SLU women did the best they possibly could without Megan Kellogg and Leah Livernois. Both of them were their 1 and 2 runners all year and both got injured at unfortunate times of the season.

Was there something dramatically different between pre-nats and nationals? Every guy in Geneseo's top 5 ran better times at nats vs pre-nats.

I know teams peak, but it still seems surprisingly to have every guy run on par (or better) and drop so dramatically in rankings vs. actual finish.

It was incredibly hot at pre nationals whereas yesterday it was low 40's.

if anything that should make them run even better??

That is my point. You're more likely to run a faster time when its colder than when its incredibly hot out.

Calculated Top 20 returning teams in 2018: (I already took out the outliers i.e. Fredonia and St. Joseph's). These numbers were calculated based on how many returners each team had based on the top 100 returners in the AR meet and weighted based on how much of each team returned next year.

1. RPI

2. Geneseo

3. SLU

4. Rowan

5. TCNJ

6. RIT

7. Ramapo

8. NYU

9. Brockport

10. Oneonta

11. Plattsburgh

12. Ithaca

13. Oswego

14. Utica

15. Cortland

16. Stockton

17. Houghton

18. Vassar

19. Clarkson

20. New Paltz