Humans are becoming like computers.
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Humans are becoming like computers.
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Event is under review...probably a protest was filed.
Wasn't there a DQ in a meet because a runner had too many pins for their number? This no number DQ is bad.
Didn't have jersey
Is there a protocol for dealing with such rules violations? Are the officials supposed to give the runner an opportunity to rectify it? Should they give the "champ" extra privileges in such a matter?
Rojo:Kindly reread your posts and adjust the mistake(s) before sending out into the world. I love how excited you get with breaking stories and race updates, but you need to slow it down sometimes and let things get clarified, and let the errors show themselves. "...he showed up at the start line without a big on his jersey..."i know you have the best of intentions, but there's no excuse and grammar/spelling could get you in trouble some day
rojo wrote:
A source just called and told me that Michigan State sophomore Justine Kiprotich wasn't allowed to run at NCAAs today because he showed up at the start line without a big on his jersey (I believe he had his hip number on).
If you have any details, please share.
He is listed as a DNS in the results.
In other news, the disappointing 2017 season for 2016 mile champ Henry Wynne continued as he was eliminated.
Results here.
http://www.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/track-field/results/d1/outdoor17/east/005-1_compiled.htm
trollism wrote:
I'm with this guy.
It's hardly a complicated rule. His coach/manager/agent/doctor should have done it for him (along with his shoelaces) like every other Kenyan athlete.
Let's see here.
1) I don't think it would be hard for the official to take 30 seconds and use common sense. "Hey guys, anyone recognize this guy? He says he's from Michigan State and supposed to be racing." I think everyone would vouch for him.
2) He's been living over her for a long while (went to HS here) so he may be an American citizen. It wouldn't shock me if someone told me he was born here.
3) It's a real shame as I know some people were picking him as high as third for NCAAs. In high school as a freshman, he ran 2:40 for 800.
http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/article/6029238541831691626/from-scrawny-kids-to-the-big-ten-how-four-east-kentwood-track-standouts-transformed-into-division-1-athletes/I've never seen anyone race without a bib.
Why is this surprising to not let him run?
You make this sound like him being the Conference champ excludes him from having to wear a bib #. Should all the conference champs at NCAA Regionals be excluded from this meet rule? Maybe they should have held the whole meet up 15 minutes, and disrupted 100 other athlete's warm-ups that are timed to the meet schedule for the one kid who forgot his bib? This isn't middle school XC.
I coach on a campus that requires an ID check every single time you enter campus. Doesn't matter that I go there every single day, if I forget my ID, I'm not getting on campus. The campus police know me and my name, but they aren't making an exception because I was Conference Coach of the year or something.
At a meet, as the coach I go pick up our meet packet, and hand each athlete their bib (or one of the other coaches does). At that point, its on the athlete to be a damned adult and take care of it, just like its on them to bring their uniform, and spikes.
Just because you work for a weird-ass, hyper-paranoid institution, doesn't mean that everyone should act that way.
He forgot his number. Official writes a number on a piece of paper. Paper gets pinned to uniform. Problem solved. Run the race.
I'm talking about making an exception for him yes I am. Not because he's a conference champion. I just pointed that fact out as this guy was expected to be a player at NCAAs in Eugene.
I'd want them to let the 48th guy in as well. If I was there coaching, I would have lied down on the track and acted like a child if it was my athlete if I was aware of it.
This isn't some issue where school safety is an issue or a lawsuit could happen. This is a sporting event where it would literally take 15 seconds to confirm he was who he said he was.
It amazes me there are people like you who want rules to be enforced for no reason. The only need for bibs at all is to help officials ID runners if there is a foul. YBut guess what, if there is only one guy without a bib it would be easy for the official to say, "Yeah the black guy in the green jersey - the guy without a bib- committed the foul."
You think it would take 15 minutes for them to confirm he should be in the field? More like 15 seconds. I'm not asking for the meet to be delayed so they can confirm the identities of all 48 people. And don't give me some BS excuse of, "Well if they let him get away with it, pretty much no one will wear a bib." Please. I'd be ok with fining the school $100 bucks, but don't be an idiot.
And don't tell me you are worried about impostors. That's not going to happen. It would be just as easy for someone to steal a bib.
How far down the slippery slope do you go? If three guys lined up without bibs, then what?
Seriously, so all the work that this guy put in was for nothing, all because of a silly mistake that could have been solved in minutes. At our D2 conference meet they didn't give out bib numbers yet somehow the meet went on without a hitch. Although at this point in the game, how in the f*ck do you forget something like this??
Wojo with all due respect you are wrong. The athlete and his coach are well aware of what the rules are. It's inexcusable on the part of both of them that he did not show up at the line with his bib. We can't just always solve problems for kids everytime they screw up. It's ok for rules to be enforced and for a coach and an athlete to face consequences for something that was EASILY avoided. This is on them, not the officials.
rojo wrote:
YBut guess what, if there is only one guy without a big it would be easy for the official to say, "Yeah the black guy in the green jersey - the guy without a big- committed the foul."
Somehow, your moral outrage is diminished by a stubborn refusal to proofread your text. Despite being admonished to do so a few posts ago.
Ok. My source just told me they are going to let him run a 1500 all by himself after the 10ks are over. If he beats the last time qualifier, he's into the final.
It will be amazing. Now I'm only fine with that if they let 25 into the next round, not 24. Just have him run this round to get tired out. The 1500 isn't a race that's run for time. It's often tactical. So you can't not take the final time qualifier.
Another source told me he's not sure that's been finalized.
Ok wait, my second source just called back and said it's not going to happen.
rojo wrote:
If I was there coaching, I would have lied down on the track and acted like a child if it was my athlete if I was aware of it.
YES!!! If one of my kids was dq'd for something this ludicrous I'd have lost my mind.
It is very unfortunate, but not ludicrous. I had a kid forget their singlet at the state meet. The couldn't run because it has to be school issued. It was sad but also a life lesson.
We also had a throw DQ'd for wearing shorts that said football on them. Dumb rules... But you don't see any other sport wearing gear from other sports. So I get it.
I don't see why they need a bib to race. Hip numbers are enough. But if bibs are required wear it.
Before big meets we put the bib on the night before. I have them check to make sure they have it before getting in the van.
I'd like to know the circumstances. If it disappeared from warm up to race start. Was it in his bag? They should give him a chance to fix before a DQ.
We've found streams of the regionals.