Salazar Responds to USADA

Aw, Alberto is now concerned about the "innocent athletes". Such a humanitarian. He should have been concerned when he was ordering his athletes to consume a medicine that increases the risk of cancer, or when Dr. Brown was squeezing the L-carnitine bag to increase the flow into Ritz's arm.

Athletes give up certain rights when it comes to the anti-doping agencies.

Lawyers wrote:

If he's lying then we will know when the evidence is released. I'm just tired of this endless speculation. And for USADA to do that seems very unprofessional.

This is naïve thinking. USADA can only release evidence if they decide to take action. If they decide not to take action or are still collecting information, then they are not allowed to release evidence. To be even more clear what this means is that the evidence can exist regardless of whether the USADA ends up ultimately taking any action.

This repot gives us the evidence pretty clearly. An athlete sat for hours for a large infusion and has his own paperwork documenting it. Salazar and Brown submitted a record that showed different numbers and claimed it to be an amount less than what would match all the other circumstantial evidence.

I agree with everyone who says doping needs to be made criminal. There's no way to subpoena or legally compel Dr. Brown to turn over all of his records. USADA can merely impose a sanction within the sport but without the legal means to compel evidence. So they're going to be under all kinds of scrutiny whenever a coach/athlete refuses to cooperate and they are put in a position to sanction based on lack of cooperation only.

Look at the Casey Anthony case. A baby died. Somebody was negligent All the evidence points to Casey being the negligent party whether or not we can discern intent. Why didn't she go to jail? Because we couldn't prove that her parents weren't the ones supposed to be watching the child at the time. All they had to do was suggest it could have been somebody else there other than Casey who caused it.

So now we have Salazar, Brown, and Ritz involved in situation or Salazar, Brown, and Rupp. The evidence doesn't match itself depending on the source. But how do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't Ritz or Rupp who submitted the forgery? Even if we exonerate them based on many reasons, what do we then do about addressing whether it was Salazar alone, Brown alone, or collusion that led to forgeries and misinformation? And can we ever prove that what was administered was actually what was on the paperwork?

Because of the above reasons the USADA will probably never be able to impose meaningful sanctions. But at least somebody was able to leak to the public this document that makes transparent the subterfuge involved in this case.

Shoebacca wrote:

This is naïve thinking. USADA can only release evidence if they decide to take action.

So is USADA taking action now, or am I only imagining that we are all reading evidence that they have released?

Squeeze the bag harder!!! wrote:

Aw, Alberto is now concerned about the "innocent athletes". Such a humanitarian. He should have been concerned when he was ordering his athletes to consume a medicine that increases the risk of cancer, or when Dr. Brown was squeezing the L-carnitine bag to increase the flow into Ritz's arm.

Athletes give up certain rights when it comes to the anti-doping agencies.

No. You're wrong. Athletes have the same rights as us. If I was an NOP athlete I would be filing a complaint with the HHS and getting an attorney. Whether USADA leaked my information or carelessly protected it, they very well may be liable.

USADA just stepped in it wrote:

One thing that seems to be ignored greatly is USADA's absolute carelesness and ...

^NOP Shill

Either Tony, Alex or Maria Salazar, or one of Cap-gun Capriotti's goon squad.

SalazarResponds! wrote:

"To be clear, I never used testosterone when I was competing, I have never had 'dual' testosterone prescriptions, and I have never rubbed testosterone on an athlete. The baseless speculation by USADA to the contrary is simply wrong.

LOL. The guy can't keep the lies straight. It's worse than Radcliffe. It seems like he forgot the last set of lies he posted.

This is the problem with running a doping program. At some point, all the lies catch up to you.

Shoebacca wrote:

So they're going to be under all kinds of scrutiny whenever a coach/athlete refuses to cooperate and they are put in a position to sanction based on lack of cooperation only.

Lack of cooperation is not a cause for sanction. Providing fraudulent information or covering up a doping violation is. I'll post the two sections of the WADA code which I think are relevant to it is clear what is required and prohibited:

2.5 Tampering or Attempted Tampering with any

part of Doping Control

Conduct which subverts the Doping Control process but

which would not otherwise be included in the definition

of Prohibited Methods. Tampering shall include, without

limitation, intentionally interfering or attempting

to interfere with a Doping Control official, providing

fraudulent information to an Anti-Doping Organization

or intimidating or attempting to intimidate a potential

witness.

2.9 Complicity

Assisting, encouraging, aiding, abetting, conspiring,

covering up or any other type of intentional complicity

involving an anti-doping rule violation, Attempted

anti-doping rule violation or violation of Article 10.12.1 by

another Person.

USADA just stepped in it wrote:

Whether USADA leaked my information or carelessly protected it, they very well may be liable.

The only thing is is "liable" to happen is NOP going DOWN.

This is what happens when you're snippy with the Brojos.

NOP is going no where. Nike has no problem with breaking rules for the sake of success. Look at their 2:00 attempt, they broke almost every rule possible. As long as Nike continues to stick behind Salazar (and they will) nothing will happen.

Hobby Joggers love the 2 hour attempt and will buy everything they can after...

Nike Marketing Team wrote:

NOP is going no where.

You do not seem to know that there is a huge difference between NOP and OP. Salazar's responses makes no mention of NIKE or NOP. OP (Oregon Project) is what he uses. There is a legal reason for that. Do you know what it is?

My first thought was that this sounds just like Lance firing back for all those years. Nobody who lashes out that vehemently could possibly be guilty, right?

Shill Outed wrote:

USADA just stepped in it wrote:

One thing that seems to be ignored greatly is USADA's absolute carelesness and ...

^NOP Shill

Either Tony, Alex or Maria Salazar, or one of Cap-gun Capriotti's goon squad.

Personally, I don't really fall hard to one side or the other on NOP; I like rooting for them in general, but I'm not a huge fan of any gray area stuff. I say this only so someone doesn't jump down my throat for the next line.

The poster(s) who call every pro-NOP poster a "shill" or accuse them of "being part of Nike's PR team" or of being "Tony, Alex, or Maria Salazar" are really not funny. That was like a 1/10 joke the first time (and that's being generous), but it gets repeated literally every single thread. Crazy to think that there really might be some people who support the club?!?

Wow, you're a genius. List Alberto's factual lies or go back to your parent's basement.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

SalazarResponds! wrote:

"To be clear, I never used testosterone when I was competing, I have never had 'dual' testosterone prescriptions, and I have never rubbed testosterone on an athlete. The baseless speculation by USADA to the contrary is simply wrong.

LOL. The guy can't keep the lies straight. It's worse than Radcliffe. It seems like he forgot the last set of lies he posted.

This is the problem with running a doping program. At some point, all the lies catch up to you.

Shill Outed wrote:

USADA just stepped in it wrote:

One thing that seems to be ignored greatly is USADA's absolute carelesness and ...

^NOP Shill

Either Tony, Alex or Maria Salazar, or one of Cap-gun Capriotti's goon squad.

^On Brooks' payroll

You have to give credit to Salazar for creating plausible deniability.

Normally, it would be an issue for a coach to have testosterone cream in a room he shared with an athlete at training camp, but Salazar gives an innocent explanation. Normally, it would be an issue if a coach asked an athlete to be a courier of prescription testosterone cream from Houston to Oregon, but Salazar has an innocent explanation. Normally, it would be an issue for a coach to run experiments to see how much testosterone cream you can rub on someone without triggering a positive drug test, but Salazar gives an innocent explanation. Normally, it would be an issue for a coach to massage athletes, but Salazar gives an innocent explanation.

It could be that Salazar's innocent explanations are true. However, nothing I have ever read about Salazar gives me much confidence in his truthfulness. It appears to me that if Salazar had to choose between being truthful and winning, he would choose winning.

fsdfsdfsdf wrote:

Shill Outed wrote:

^NOP Shill

Either Tony, Alex or Maria Salazar, or one of Cap-gun Capriotti's goon squad.

^On Brooks' payroll

Brooks is NOT mentioned in the USADA report. NOP and Nike are. Got it, Nike shill?

Maria Salazar???? Are you nuts????

Shill Outed wrote:

USADA just stepped in it wrote:

One thing that seems to be ignored greatly is USADA's absolute carelesness and ...

^NOP Shill

Either Tony, Alex or Maria Salazar, or one of Cap-gun Capriotti's goon squad.

If any of this is remotely true, then Salazar should file suit against whoever is defaming him. In court, all documents could be produced and figured out.

Accusing somebody of using drugs and/or supplying others with drugs is a serious accusation. It's been done to him for YEARS now. Why wouldn't he have done something about it up to and including now?