Is NOP DONE or FINISHED?

So what rules were broken? They just took legal supplements that are available at high doses?

Nike CEO Mark Parker was directly involved in this scandal. Nike has big problems in this regard.

LRC Commenter wrote:

Wow. These guys look super screwd. Can they get past it? Hurt or injured? I think its possible that USADA will end up doing nothing? Weve thought they were done before, maybe this is another false alarm. Discus.

Nike is pro-cheater, this won't change their behavior.

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dean james wrote:

james deen wrote:

I think NOP will weather this storm because there are no verifiable facts that I can see.

Oh, that YOU can see. Take your NOP-blinders off.

I don't have NOP blinders. Show me one thing in that report that is verifiable? It's all heresay.

I have no dog in this hunt. But, I also think its ridiculous that USADA has exposed this confidential information. And that this is all that their investigation has turned up after 2 years.

The most damning thing that I've seen is Ritz' testimony that he felt pressure to take L-C and one other pill, both of which are not a banned substances.

To me, AlSal pushes every advantage, but is careful not to step over the line. His emails demonstrate that.

I don't think that makes him or anyone at NOP a doper.

Fiduciary Suicide wrote:

Nike CEO Mark Parker was directly involved in this scandal. Nike has big problems in this regard.

"Directly involved?" Maybe, maybe met w/ Salazar after the Magness infusion...

If Salazar isn't suspended along with the athletes that cheated it's yet a further blow to the sport. And if Nike doesn't do something (ie fire Salazar) as well (which guessing that might be tough as they knew/supported it) then it's really hard to trust any success going forward given their stronghold on USA T&F. I don't trust any US sprinters so now to have mid/ long distance cheating too just sucks :( I haven't followed closely but the supporters on these boards are in crazy denial. Initially they did nothing wrong and it was only Rupp and Farah that played in the grey area, now presented with clear evidence that they broke the rules their thinking is well they didn't break big enough rules so it's ok. And I don't recall Dathan being mentioned before and now that he clearly cheated it's still ok because he didn't really know he was cheating (but seems to have strongly suspected it.) I just hope that Wetmore and Schumacher haven't continued to send their athletes to Dr. Brown as there is still some hope that Coburn, Evan, Simpson, Shalane, Enfeld are clean. Maybe this is denial too.

Also there is mention of Dr. Brown still practicing in Tx. I'm no expert but I think the rules for doctors in Tx are very lax. There was a neurosurgeon in MN about 10 or so years ago who was sued for 2 patient deaths and making another patient quadriplegic while he was operating on them for elective back/ neck surgeries. He left MN and continued to practice in Tx

even with drugs Mo n Rupp still can reach any world records...

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Fiduciary Suicide wrote:

Nike CEO Mark Parker was directly involved in this scandal. Nike has big problems in this regard.

"Directly involved?" Maybe, maybe met w/ Salazar after the Magness infusion...

Alberto sending Parker progress reports on the infusion results via email (published in USADA report)

Soft Cell wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

"Directly involved?" Maybe, maybe met w/ Salazar after the Magness infusion...

Alberto sending Parker progress reports on the infusion results via email (published in USADA report)

Maybe we are just parsing the meaning of "directly involved" I can only imagine the amount of emails that the Nike CEO receives every day. I'm not sure receiving an email means he was directly involved. "Aware of" I would certainly buy.

The LR Opinion wrote:

Absolutely, and as a fan of American track and field, I couldn't be more happy to see our only successful distance running group crumble!

Uncontrolled human experiments are okay, right?

We'll send you the bill for the lifetime of medical complications following the doping.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Soft Cell wrote:

Alberto sending Parker progress reports on the infusion results via email (published in USADA report)

Maybe we are just parsing the meaning of "directly involved" I can only imagine the amount of emails that the Nike CEO receives every day. I'm not sure receiving an email means he was directly involved. "Aware of" I would certainly buy.

Pull your head out of Alberto's azz.

Kenya= Mafia Doping

Russia=National Doping

USA= Coorporate Doping

It's pretty clear from the NYTimes article that Salazar puts his runners' health first and foremost, even if he's pushing the boundaries of doping regulations

Please read the whole article again.

Dopeton Sinclair wrote:

It's pretty clear from the NYTimes article that Salazar puts his runners' health first and foremost, even if he's pushing the boundaries of doping regulations

doctorj wrote:Is NOP DONE or FINISHED?

Done? Or finished? Wow, what a quandary. I might be able to come to a decision if you can tell me the difference between "done" and "finished."

Very simliar to the difference between hurt and injured

BOTH!!! HE IS DONE AND HE IS FINIHSED!!!

More Dunn than Adam. More Finnished than Swedish fish