USADA is screwed. I feel sorry for them.

fix your tests wrote:

Any time a doping agency attempts to mount a case against someone they have not procured a positive test against, they are admitting to incompetence.

They collected evidence of long-running uncontrolled human experimentation, in the pursuit of enhancing human performance.

A NADO's only role is to collect the data and send it to the sports federation. It's up to the sports federation to sanction the sport's participants.

In the recent history of the IAAF, they have shown they know about the doping and use that information to collect bribes. This time would hardly be different.

Why would USATF and IAAF would have no interest in sanctioning a doping program run by their #1 sponsor?

rojo wrote:

OP. The leak comes from Fancy bears not USADA. Over the last few months, we'd been hearing rumors they were going to charge Salazar. Obviously they haven't yet.

That being said we should hang out. I got a chuckle when I looked up your IP. I need more running friends and I'm often in your city.

email me

robertjohnson@letsrun.com

Portland . . . that was obvious from his first post. No need for an IP check.

This seems to be very similar to that time the NFL framed Tom Brady.

UR a Shill wrote:

NotAShill wrote:

I wasn't a fan of Nike or NOP prior to this but now am rooting for them. I hope that insofar as due process was violated during the course of this sham investigation USADA is sued.

^Obvious NIKE shill.

i am a poor postdoc staring at my adidas bostons as we speak, and i agree 100% with the Nike shill.

You conjectures as the USADA's are purely assumptions that would be very difficult to prove in a court of law. The so called documents are impossible to prove they are correct of not. A couple of simple questions in court would have them thrown out in second.

The athletes can stand on the their own and I would say your reaching in that they are all under some type of "bidding" not to stand up and cry foul and or not have the integrity to say no. They so called witnesses/athletes have given their testimony which appears not to give the so called nail in the coffin closure.

Given that the bears only released part of the report may it be that the full report may show other aspects lending evidence that nothing can be proven that show actual drug violations. This select release is just that.

This isn't a court of law. There are no other sides other than USADA's. Unless you're trying your case in public, like Salazar (and you) are attempting to do.

NotAShill wrote:

I wasn't a fan of Nike or NOP prior to this but now am rooting for them. I hope that insofar as due process was violated during the course of this sham investigation USADA is sued.

This isn't a criminal or civil case so rules of due process do not apply. It's the drug enforcement arm of the governing body of a professional sport. NOP/

Salazar could try to sue, but courts are usually loathe to get involved in private matters like this where are are solutions like arbitration. In any case, although the USADA report stated it was likely doping violations occurred, no sanctions have been brought down, because it very likely requires more than just a reasoned hypothesis.

Then why are you here?

Vetfried wrote:

Vulcan wrote:

You're probably one of a dozen recent grads that Nike pays $20 per hour to spam the boards in the name of PR.

Are you a parent or teacher? Take a look at a group of young kids next time and see how many are wearing Nike. Not an exaggeration to say 75% of kids ages 8-13 are wearing Nike or Under Armour on a DAILY basis. Nike is going no where and they certainly don't care about a small running message board.

doot doot wrote:

Show us the receipt.

Not sure how. You'll just have to trust me. Just like Ritz with his mystery spray.

That little skull logo is gonna look fierce when I'm zooming past the hobby joggers in my next race 🏃🏾💨[/quote]

Any serious runner and even half serious runners know the people who buy Nike singlets (and especially NOP singlets) are always chumps. All the guys who line up with their Nike singlets always run 17 minute 5ks and then talk it up afterwards how great their attire is and how they are just tired from a 10 mile tempo at 4:30 pace two days prior to the race.

Dream on kid.

Dear "Larry",

Sorry to see you missed the memo.

USADAs efforts and findings over the past several years have indirectly encouraged some of Salazar's previous athletes to step out of the shade. Just wait until Wheating, and others who will remain unnamed for now, come forward to testify - the final deathblow to Salazar and NOP.

In the meantime, I highly suggest you brush up on your understanding of facts vs evidence, and the influence of both in a court of law:

http://vspages.com/facts-vs-evidence-2730/

NOW TESTIFY!

Best wishes,

Nils Schumann

LOL SO GREAT! Best response I've EVER read on Letsrun:-)Poor "Larry" maybe clueless about basic network admin.

rojo wrote:

OP. The leak comes from Fancy bears not USADA. Over the last few months, we'd been hearing rumors they were going to charge Salazar. Obviously they haven't yet.

That being said we should hang out. I got a chuckle when I looked up your IP. I need more running friends and I'm often in your city.

email me

robertjohnson@letsrun.com

The other Letsrun poster is paid?!

I resign.

fadsfadsfdsghhhhh wrote:

Dear "Larry",

Sorry to see you missed the memo.

USADAs efforts and findings over the past several years have indirectly encouraged some of Salazar's previous athletes to step out of the shade. Just wait until Wheating, and others who will remain unnamed for now, come forward to testify - the final deathblow to Salazar and NOP.

In the meantime, I highly suggest you brush up on your understanding of facts vs evidence, and the influence of both in a court of law:

http://vspages.com/facts-vs-evidence-2730/

NOW TESTIFY!

Best wishes,

Nils Schumann

I suggest you do your homework before you type. Wheating was not coached by Salazar. All Salazar coached athletes that were being coached for the specific time period of the investigation have been disposed and interviewed.

All relative communication has been supplied.

If you have specific information and or names that we are unaware of I suggest you come forward with it publicly. Are you in fear of something?

hermes link ice blue mink wrote:

UR a Shill wrote:

^Obvious NIKE shill.

i am a poor postdoc staring at my adidas bostons as we speak, and i agree 100% with the Nike shill.

Also running in Adidas and nearly anything but Nike. Also agree with the supposed Nike shill.

I am a Nike shill and disagree with the OP. USADA has a strong case against Salazar and has done nothing but run a thorough investigation and get hacked. thanks