Is Edward Cheserek the GOAT for NCAA distance runners?

Can't wait to see what he does post-collegiately!

LetsRun.com wrote:

Read this and then tell us what you think.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/05/edward-cheserek-goat-ncaa-distance-running-answer-isnt-simple/

is the criteria based on how well the athlete did relative to other NCAA athletes and record? - YES, he isor is it based on how good/fast the ncaa distance runner is? - There are others who are better/more successful in terms of olympics/world champs/national and even world recordshe's the winning-est, most dominant ncaa distance runner ever. that's hard to argue against

LetsRun.com wrote:

Read this and then tell us what you think.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/05/edward-cheserek-goat-ncaa-distance-running-answer-isnt-simple/

Well at least he wasn't winning those titles as a 27 year old.

not a huge fan of him, and ill admit I usually root for him to lose, but yes he is the goat

Yes he is

Range, competition and he's not older than everyone else

Jared ward was old and everyone loved him?!

better than rono wrote:

Well at least he wasn't winning those titles as a 27 year old.

i never really tried to "estimate" the guy as apart from his recent 3'52.01i, his clockings weren't top-elitehowever, digging deeper, he's known to have big kick & some of his pbs such as his 13'18pb are nearly 3y ole !!!also his 7'40i last year is damn good, probably a 7'35 outdoors & likely lot to come off for lack of drafting/uneven-pace ( can someone link/analyse that 3k )best number is that 3'52.01ii go by ~ 2.5s quicker outdoors -> 3'49.5now, we don't have vid as flotrack-premium, but his splits weren't good 1st 800 too quick, excruciating ~ 60s 3rd lap & 58-flat finishthat easily gets it down to 3'49.0 for the uneven-pacewe then need vid to see how much drafting he got to 1209.344m & whether any wide running on bendsi suspect not muchi woud therefore go with an outdoor mile ability currently of ~ 3'48-flatto get line of fit, we need a current 400 abilityas none available, we have to go on speeds of elites & 90% usually are 47.00 - 49.00 ( with Asbel likely quicker & mo slower, being 2 notable exceptions )from experience, i'm going with ~ 48.0 - 48.5 -> nearest line of fit to nearest 0.25s for 400/800 ->48.5 / 1'45.25 ->3'30.53'47.57'31.013'08.527'56.9clearly 1500/3k are his best distances & he is "hanging on" for 5 & 10k the latter are not his best distancethen we have this recent eye-opening article :http://registerguard.com/rg/sports/trackandfield/35604615-84/edward-cheserek-injury-not-major-just-bad-timing.html.csp#

"At the end of the day, Edward has to leave here and go and be a pro, which I think he’s going to be highly successful at. He’s probably just scratching the surface as far as his talent and what he’s done here at the University of Oregon”

if that is anywhere true, as a pro, with plenty of rest, selected racing, etc, i woud not at all be shocked if he runs a 3'29+ this year

I'm curious what group he joins when he turns pro. Hopefully not OTC.

calculo wrote:

i never really tried to "estimate" the guy as apart from his recent 3'52.01i, his clockings weren't top-elite...

clearly 1500/3k are his best distances & he is "hanging on" for 5 & 10k

the latter are not his best distance

then we have this recent eye-opening article :...

if that is anywhere true, as a pro, with plenty of rest, selected racing, etc, i woud not at all be shocked if he runs a 3'29+ this year

He was pretty strong in XC, so I would think that even if 5/10k aren't his best distance, that he will still be sub 13 and 27 flat one day. Maybe he will be the next Mo Farah?

a guy with 28-flat potential beating up on college guys in x-country is no surprise

to go 13/27 woud be monumental

clearly his best distances are 1500/3k currently & that is based on his indoor mile

that indicated ~ 48-mid speed, as unless you are caled mo, or geb or kennster, you can't run that fast for a mile on anything other than 47/48 speed

the "holy grail" for him woud be if he coud ever go 27-flat, woud be to keep as much of that 400 speed as possible & proper weight-training which he will get in US with a good coach who understands all running is "holistic" & you have to train for speed with weights like mo does, can get him somewhere there, but never in Kenya if you listen to canova who just buries his head in the sand at thought of this "radical" idea !?

how anyone can think doing weights won't help with your speed for a middle/distance runner is beyond belief !

anyhows, worth theorizing more for "fun" what a 27'00 - 27'30 guy coud do with 48.5 - 49.0 speed

49.0 / 27'30 ->

1'45.32

3'29.93

4'47.50

7'27.31

12'59.24

48.75 / 27'15 ->

1'44.67 !

3'28.45 !!

4'45.37 !!

7'23.79 !!

12'52.68 !

48.5 / 27'00 ->

1'44.02 !!

3'26.97 !!!

4'43.25 !!!

7'20.27 !!!

12'46.12 !!

it may be possible in next few years to approach the middle set of estimates, but he has to decide if he wants to be a miler or a distance runner, as it's virtually impossible to do both

( mo has done it with intense weight-training & he is currently the only example in history who can run super times at todays exalted level over 1500 & 10k simultaneously

( aouita had good range but never in his wildest dreams coud he have run ~ 26'30 which mo was capable of ) )

Hahahaha the dude doesn't even have an outdoor school record at Oregon. Weak.