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    • Casey Fanboy
      • Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 11:48AM
      • Casey Fanboy
      • Casey ran 8:57 to win by only .05 seconds. Talon Hull took second. 8:57.90 to 8:57.95. the last 400m was 57 seconds and the last 200m was 25. Incredible race. McKay Johns took 3rd in 9:01, Ryan Raff 4th in 9:08, and Patrick Parker 5th in 9:08. Raff led from the gun before dying in the last 3/4 mile.
    • zxvxzcv
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 12:39PM - in reply to Casey Fanboy
      • zxvxzcv
      • 25 seconds for the last 200m I cannot believe for a second. If that were confirmed, I would believe that these two guys are the best talents in the country by far.
    • Casey Fanboy
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 12:58PM - in reply to zxvxzcv
      • Casey Fanboy
      • zxvxzcv wrote:
        25 seconds for the last 200m I cannot believe for a second. If that were confirmed, I would believe that these two guys are the best talents in the country by far.
        That wasn't official, but two people near me hand timed it at 25
    • Even 27
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 1:16PM - in reply to Casey Fanboy
      • Even 27
      • Casey Fanboy wrote:
        zxvxzcv wrote:
        25 seconds for the last 200m I cannot believe for a second. If that were confirmed, I would believe that these two guys are the best talents in the country by far.
        That wasn't official, but two people near me hand timed it at 25
        Has to be below 27, assuming the hand timers got the start point off--even by 10m which seems unlikely--, AND delayed reactions. No matter how anyone thinks about the 25 time, any time sub 27 that is very impressive, especially at altitude wrapping up a 3200m race.
    • Gotta bee
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 1:39PM - in reply to zxvxzcv
      • Gotta bee
      • zxvxzcv wrote:
        25 seconds for the last 200m I cannot believe for a second. If that were confirmed, I would believe that these two guys are the best talents in the country by far.
        Cooper teare?
    • Saw it also
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 1:47PM - in reply to zxvxzcv
      • Saw it also
      • zxvxzcv wrote:
        25 seconds for the last 200m I cannot believe for a second. If that were confirmed, I would believe that these two guys are the best talents in the country by far.
        Why would you find a finish like that hard to believe for a ~4:00 1600m runner? And why is everyone's knee jerk reaction to always think someone is lying? Is that what our world is now? Were you in the stands to watch it?
    • Attendee
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 3:07PM - in reply to Casey Fanboy
      • Attendee
      • Official splits for Clinger and Hull for the final 800m:
        Clinger: 67.80, 55.41
        Hull: 67.89, 55.63
    • lease
    • Casey Fanboy
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 9:19PM - in reply to lease
      • Casey Fanboy
      • lease wrote:
        What do you mean by "altitude"? Something over 2000m?
        Not quite. It's about 4500 feet
    • Casey Fanboy
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 9:35PM - in reply to Attendee
      • Casey Fanboy
      • Attendee wrote:
        Official splits for Clinger and Hull for the final 800m:
        Clinger: 67.80, 55.41
        Hull: 67.89, 55.63
        Yup, even faster than I originally thought. That is incredible... 2:02 800m at the end of a 3200m... Absolutely insane
    • Attendee
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/20/2017 11:24PM - in reply to Casey Fanboy
      • Attendee
      • Casey Fanboy wrote:
        Attendee wrote:
        Official splits for Clinger and Hull for the final 800m:
        Clinger: 67.80, 55.41
        Hull: 67.89, 55.63
        Yup, even faster than I originally thought. That is incredible... 2:02 800m at the end of a 3200m... Absolutely insane
        Worth noting that A. Troutner in the 4A 3200m race closed in 63.5/60.37 (2:03.87) solo.
    • NOP Skeptic
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 1:12AM - in reply to Casey Fanboy
      • NOP Skeptic
      • Casey Fanboy wrote:
        lease wrote:
        What do you mean by "altitude"? Something over 2000m?
        Not quite. It's about 4500 feet
        At that altitude it's at least worth 12 seconds

        So Clinger probably ran around 8:45 which is completely believe and with how fast he closed, this is really impressive. I'm probably even more impressed with 2nd place. I can see Clinger and Teare both AA's in the NCAA 3k next year.
    • coachmostert
      registered
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 7:11AM - in reply to NOP Skeptic
      • coachmostert
        registered
      • BYU Track is at 4627 ft. altitude. NCAA conversion calculator puts 8:57.90 at an 8:46.05. The race went out slow. 400m Splits (Source: http://results.runnercard.com/...id=1001064 )
        1 Clinger, Casey AMFK 8:57.89 1:07.54(1:07.54), 2:19.36(1:11.82), 3:31.21(1:11.85), 4:40.27(1:09.06), 5:46.71(1:06.44),
        6:54.68(1:07.97), 8:02.48(1:07.80), 8:57.89(55.41)

        2 Hull, Talon WEBR 8:57.95 1:06.19(1:06.19), 2:16.96(1:10.77), 3:27.16(1:10.20), 4:37.04(1:09.89), 5:45.21(1:08.16),
        6:54.43(1:09.22), 8:02.32(1:07.89), 8:57.95(55.63)

        3 Johns, McKay AMFK 9:01.26 1:06.26(1:06.26), 2:17.16(1:10.90), 3:27.79(1:10.63), 4:37.42(1:09.63), 5:46.69(1:09.28),
        6:54.89(1:08.20), 8:02.64(1:07.76), 9:01.26(58.61)

        4 Raff, Ryan LEHI 9:08.62 1:05.63(1:05.63), 2:16.70(1:11.07), 3:26.80(1:10.10), 4:36.76(1:09.97), 5:44.95(1:08.19),
        6:54.23(1:09.28), 8:02.71(1:08.49), 9:08.62(1:05.91)

        5 Parker, Patrick AMFK 9:08.69 1:06.83(1:06.83), 2:19.18(1:12.35), 3:31.31(1:12.13), 4:40.56(1:09.25), 5:48.26(1:07.70), 6:58.34(1:10.08),
        8:07.18(1:08.84), 9:08.69(1:01.51)
    • heyyo
      registered
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 7:48AM - in reply to coachmostert
      • heyyo
        registered
      • coachmostert wrote:
        BYU Track is at 4627 ft. altitude. NCAA conversion calculator puts 8:57.90 at an 8:46.05. The race went out slow. 400m Splits (Source: http://results.runnercard.com/...id=1001064 )
        1 Clinger, Casey AMFK 8:57.89 1:07.54(1:07.54), 2:19.36(1:11.82), 3:31.21(1:11.85), 4:40.27(1:09.06), 5:46.71(1:06.44),
        6:54.68(1:07.97), 8:02.48(1:07.80), 8:57.89(55.41)

        2 Hull, Talon WEBR 8:57.95 1:06.19(1:06.19), 2:16.96(1:10.77), 3:27.16(1:10.20), 4:37.04(1:09.89), 5:45.21(1:08.16),
        6:54.43(1:09.22), 8:02.32(1:07.89), 8:57.95(55.63)

        3 Johns, McKay AMFK 9:01.26 1:06.26(1:06.26), 2:17.16(1:10.90), 3:27.79(1:10.63), 4:37.42(1:09.63), 5:46.69(1:09.28),
        6:54.89(1:08.20), 8:02.64(1:07.76), 9:01.26(58.61)

        4 Raff, Ryan LEHI 9:08.62 1:05.63(1:05.63), 2:16.70(1:11.07), 3:26.80(1:10.10), 4:36.76(1:09.97), 5:44.95(1:08.19),
        6:54.23(1:09.28), 8:02.71(1:08.49), 9:08.62(1:05.91)

        5 Parker, Patrick AMFK 9:08.69 1:06.83(1:06.83), 2:19.18(1:12.35), 3:31.31(1:12.13), 4:40.56(1:09.25), 5:48.26(1:07.70), 6:58.34(1:10.08),
        8:07.18(1:08.84), 9:08.69(1:01.51)
        Wow I remember when the state meet was won 9:20 or so. Now 5 guys all ran under 9:10 with two under 9. Utah is stacked this year.

        Who's coaching at Weber and Lehi?
    • Sir James Lebronovich
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 8:06AM - in reply to Even 27
      • Sir James Lebronovich
      • Yeah but there's a huge difference between 50.x and 52.x pace (25.x and 26.x) so that's why people chimed in about him running 25

        I could split 52.x easily in high school, I could do it indoors on a 200m track, but getting under 51 took more effort and talent, so that's why people are skeptical

        Even 27 wrote:
        Casey Fanboy wrote:
        zxvxzcv wrote:
        25 seconds for the last 200m I cannot believe for a second. If that were confirmed, I would believe that these two guys are the best talents in the country by far.
        That wasn't official, but two people near me hand timed it at 25
        Has to be below 27, assuming the hand timers got the start point off--even by 10m which seems unlikely--, AND delayed reactions. No matter how anyone thinks about the 25 time, any time sub 27 that is very impressive, especially at altitude wrapping up a 3200m race.
    • shout out bro
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 8:19AM - in reply to Sir James Lebronovich
      • shout out bro
      • Fanboys gonna fanboy. Y'all think Hull is a 8:46 guy? LOL

        Clinger isn't even top 5 in the country.
    • lease
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 8:36AM - in reply to NOP Skeptic
      • lease
      • NOP Skeptic wrote:
        Casey Fanboy wrote:
        lease wrote:
        What do you mean by "altitude"? Something over 2000m?
        Not quite. It's about 4500 feet
        At that altitude it's at least worth 12 seconds
        Says who? I mean that literally: what's the source for that much of a bump?

        I've spent time in Denver ("the Mile-High City") and Flagstaff, and Flagstaff (at ~6900ft) was an *order of magnitude* tougher than Denver. It's hard for me to feature ~4500ft as really being "altitude," but I could well be wrong...and would appreciate a link to something that shows I am!
    • 7000Altitude
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 9:14AM - in reply to shout out bro
      • 7000Altitude
      • Geez, not sure what Casey is supposed to do. Think they targeted the 4x1600 at Arcadia. He runs a 4:02 split. Then comes back and goes 8:44 in the 3200. On what, May 6th ,up at BYU Invite, at 4600 feet, he runs a 4:06. I believe Ben Saarel had the record there at BYU track, at 4:07.95. Is there any record Casey hasn't smashed? I've coached against him. IMHO, he is a fierce competitor. He does what he sets out to do.
    • Attendee
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 9:43AM - in reply to lease
      • Attendee
      • lease wrote:
        NOP Skeptic wrote:
        Casey Fanboy wrote:
        lease wrote:
        What do you mean by "altitude"? Something over 2000m?
        Not quite. It's about 4500 feet
        At that altitude it's at least worth 12 seconds
        Says who? I mean that literally: what's the source for that much of a bump?

        I've spent time in Denver ("the Mile-High City") and Flagstaff, and Flagstaff (at ~6900ft) was an *order of magnitude* tougher than Denver. It's hard for me to feature ~4500ft as really being "altitude," but I could well be wrong...and would appreciate a link to something that shows I am!
        I'm not sure what the calculators/converters say, but compare Arcadia 3200 times of Utah runners to their Utah PBs. Almost across the board, their Arcadia times are 15-30sec faster.
    • NOP Skeptic
      • RE: Casey Clinger Runs 8:57 at altitude to win Utah State Championships 5/21/2017 10:18AM - in reply to lease
      • NOP Skeptic
      • lease wrote:
        NOP Skeptic wrote:
        Casey Fanboy wrote:
        lease wrote:
        What do you mean by "altitude"? Something over 2000m?
        Not quite. It's about 4500 feet
        At that altitude it's at least worth 12 seconds
        Says who? I mean that literally: what's the source for that much of a bump?

        I've spent time in Denver ("the Mile-High City") and Flagstaff, and Flagstaff (at ~6900ft) was an *order of magnitude* tougher than Denver. It's hard for me to feature ~4500ft as really being "altitude," but I could well be wrong...and would appreciate a link to something that shows I am!
        I said it was about a 12 second difference putting Clinger at 8:45. The poster right after me said with the NCAA conversion for altitude that the time converted to 8:46 low. My estimate was based purely off the NCAA conversation tool and I was pretty much spot on. I'm not sure what the exact conversion should be as the NCAA doesn't discriminate on difference levels of altitude, however 4500 feet is definitely quite a bit of altitude.