I currently weigh around 150, well not anymore. I went on a diet of 1600 to 1800 calories a day and completely cut sugar out of my diet. I have lost around five pounds so far in the last two days. My question is how much faster can I be if I get my weight down to 130? My current mile time is 5:05. In addition, how long will it take to get down to around 130 pounds safely?
I would advise 135. 130 is borderline and you'll do fine dropping 15 pounds
Depends on how big your bone structure is and how much muscle youve got. For me at 5'10'' 150lbs had people saying i look like im starving myself. I was easily 8% bodyfat. Judge it based on feel and look, not on what other runners weight.
phat phuck wrote:
Depends on how big your bone structure is and how much muscle youve got. For me at 5'10'' 150lbs had people saying i look like im starving myself. I was easily 8% bodyfat. Judge it based on feel and look, not on what other runners weight.
I love your name, anyways, I used to weight 140, but I got injured and gained around 10 pounds. During that time I was swimming 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day to maintain fitness and gained some muscle, but since then I have lost the majority of the muscle that I gained. My friend is in wrestling and he suggested that if I drop 20 pounds I can be running in the high 4:30s low 4:40s. What do you guys think of that idea, is it true?
qwerty12323 wrote:
I love your name, anyways, I used to weight 140, but I got injured and gained around 10 pounds. During that time I was swimming 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day to maintain fitness and gained some muscle, but since then I have lost the majority of the muscle that I gained. My friend is in wrestling and he suggested that if I drop 20 pounds I can be running in the high 4:30s low 4:40s. What do you guys think of that idea, is it true?
Depends on what your ideal racing weight is. Also how consistant you are with training and mileage. I would say that the more important part of gaining speed is consistancy, not really able to speak from experience but ive witnessed some of my teammates drop significant amounts time just by getting through a full year of decent training.
I am currently a sophomore and ran all winter long, I averaged around 40 miles a week during the winter. During the summer, however, I would like to bump my mileage up to 50. I would also like to come in with a 4:40 to 4:45 mile at time trials, which would place me in the top three for varsity. Is this goal attainable if I start eating better and bump up my mileage? The injury that I was out with was a hamstring strain and I still have it. Whenever I bend over I feel a pain in my leg sometimes, actually, it's only after I do a really hard workout or race. I am doing clams and single leg bridges right now to try and combat this, do you have any other ideas of what I should/could do to make it better?
No, stop. This is stupid and dangerous. You're a 16-year old athlete. You can't build muscle or strength or endurance or connective tissue or anything unless you're getting enough calories. Stop restricting calories and put sugar back in your diet right now, dammit. I'm serious. Go to the fridge and drink a soda or get a bowl of sugary cereal. Trying to cut weight while you're growing and working out and raising mileage is one of the stupidest ideas that thousands of people have already tried. It works for a little while, then they get injured and fall apart, at best. Stop it. Just eat healthy - and enough! - and train smart, and your weight will take care of itself.
And the rest of you, stop encouraging teenagers to restrict their diets. Idiots.
colder and wiser wrote:
No, stop. This is stupid and dangerous. You're a 16-year old athlete. You can't build muscle or strength or endurance or connective tissue or anything unless you're getting enough calories. Stop restricting calories and put sugar back in your diet right now, dammit. I'm serious. Go to the fridge and drink a soda or get a bowl of sugary cereal. Trying to cut weight while you're growing and working out and raising mileage is one of the stupidest ideas that thousands of people have already tried. It works for a little while, then they get injured and fall apart, at best. Stop it. Just eat healthy - and enough! - and train smart, and your weight will take care of itself.
And the rest of you, stop encouraging teenagers to restrict their diets. Idiots.
PREACH. Weight cutting is idiotic. Let the workouts and a normal FULL healthy diet let your body get to where it is works well at.
qwerty12323 wrote:
I love your name, anyways, I used to weight 140, but I got injured and gained around 10 pounds. During that time I was swimming 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day to maintain fitness and gained some muscle, but since then I have lost the majority of the muscle that I gained. My friend is in wrestling and he suggested that if I drop 20 pounds I can be running in the high 4:30s low 4:40s. What do you guys think of that idea, is it true?
Yes, this makes perfect sense and even more so, as it came from a wrestler. Get down to 5'10" / 120 lb and you will definitely drop 30 seconds off your mile time. That is how it works.
Do you think it was a coincidence that both El G and Seb Coe weighed 128?
When I was a freshman I was 5'7" / 112 lb and I went 4:50, so there you go ...
colder and wiser wrote:
No, stop. This is stupid and dangerous. You're a 16-year old athlete. You can't build muscle or strength or endurance or connective tissue or anything unless you're getting enough calories. Stop restricting calories and put sugar back in your diet right now, dammit. I'm serious. Go to the fridge and drink a soda or get a bowl of sugary cereal. Trying to cut weight while you're growing and working out and raising mileage is one of the stupidest ideas that thousands of people have already tried. It works for a little while, then they get injured and fall apart, at best. Stop it. Just eat healthy - and enough! - and train smart, and your weight will take care of itself.
And the rest of you, stop encouraging teenagers to restrict their diets. Idiots.
This is the only response. Go eat when you're hungry, if you train hard, your weight really will stabilize around where it should be.
If you're wondering, I was 135-138 pounds as a 5'8 runner putting in 70 mpw. I ran 4:28, your weight is fine, just do the work and eat when you're hungry.
colder and wiser wrote:
No, stop. This is stupid and dangerous. You're a 16-year old athlete. You can't build muscle or strength or endurance or connective tissue or anything unless you're getting enough calories. Stop restricting calories and put sugar back in your diet right now, dammit. I'm serious. Go to the fridge and drink a soda or get a bowl of sugary cereal. Trying to cut weight while you're growing and working out and raising mileage is one of the stupidest ideas that thousands of people have already tried. It works for a little while, then they get injured and fall apart, at best. Stop it. Just eat healthy - and enough! - and train smart, and your weight will take care of itself.
And the rest of you, stop encouraging teenagers to restrict their diets. Idiots.
+1
If you want to obsess about weight get your body fat determined scientifically, in a dunk tank or by a medical professional, and then determine your ideal weight. Don't phuck around.
I'm your height and weight and tried the same thing. Got a pelvic stress fracture, the sort of injury a female senior citizen woman might get. My running at that weight? Well, due to the injury I could not run at all, could not even cross train on a bike. I'm running much better now and 10x stronger, maybe around 150. Don't know, don't care to check. If you want to run a good mile you need to be strong. I try to eat good food like vegetables, but I eat a lot of crap, just had pizza for breakfast. I just make sure to train hard and everything seems to work out fine. If I'm hungry I eat. When I need to find an extra gear it's there.
The Overexplainer wrote:
qwerty12323 wrote:I love your name, anyways, I used to weight 140, but I got injured and gained around 10 pounds. During that time I was swimming 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day to maintain fitness and gained some muscle, but since then I have lost the majority of the muscle that I gained. My friend is in wrestling and he suggested that if I drop 20 pounds I can be running in the high 4:30s low 4:40s. What do you guys think of that idea, is it true?
Yes, this makes perfect sense and even more so, as it came from a wrestler. Get down to 5'10" / 120 lb and you will definitely drop 30 seconds off your mile time. That is how it works.
Do you think it was a coincidence that both El G and Seb Coe weighed 128?
When I was a freshman I was 5'7" / 112 lb and I went 4:50, so there you go ...
Don't be ridiculous, Makh weighs 70kg.
I am 5-10 weigh 65kg and have run under 3:50 for 1500m.
OP, focus on running more, not eating less. You need training to run faster not weight loss.
The Overexplainer wrote:
qwerty12323 wrote:I love your name, anyways, I used to weight 140, but I got injured and gained around 10 pounds. During that time I was swimming 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day to maintain fitness and gained some muscle, but since then I have lost the majority of the muscle that I gained. My friend is in wrestling and he suggested that if I drop 20 pounds I can be running in the high 4:30s low 4:40s. What do you guys think of that idea, is it true?
Yes, this makes perfect sense and even more so, as it came from a wrestler. Get down to 5'10" / 120 lb and you will definitely drop 30 seconds off your mile time. That is how it works.
Do you think it was a coincidence that both El G and Seb Coe weighed 128?
When I was a freshman I was 5'7" / 112 lb and I went 4:50, so there you go ...
Unless this poster is female, a 4:50 mile as a freshman doesn't really carry too much weight (pun intended).
I ran a 4:26 mile at 170lbs in high school and 5 11'.
800ftw. wrote:
The Overexplainer wrote:Yes, this makes perfect sense and even more so, as it came from a wrestler. Get down to 5'10" / 120 lb and you will definitely drop 30 seconds off your mile time. That is how it works.
Do you think it was a coincidence that both El G and Seb Coe weighed 128?
When I was a freshman I was 5'7" / 112 lb and I went 4:50, so there you go ...
Don't be ridiculous, Makh weighs 70kg.
I am 5-10 weigh 65kg and have run under 3:50 for 1500m.
OP, focus on running more, not eating less. You need training to run faster not weight loss.
sarcastically challenged much?
Not sure how much faster, but for sure you can be much slower, injured and burnt out. What you are doing is plain stupid, you may gain a few seconds on the short term, but it will backfire badly.
Stop worrying about the weight and focus on consistent training and building up your speed. You need to be strong, not skinny, to run a fast mile.
I am an old master runner, almost exactly your height and weight, and I can run 30 seconds faster than you on the mile. it is not your weight that is holding you back. There are no shortcuts, hard work and smart training is the only way.
Milers can be big, strong people. Steve Scott weighed 165-170 at 6'1" when he ran 3:47! He had plenty of wins over Coe, Aouita, and the rest of the world's best 130-pound men. Walker, McMullen, Van Damme, Mottram...there are a lot of world-class guys who weigh considerably over 150. Yes, they're taller, but also proportionately heavier. People like Ovett, Webb, See, Batty, and lots more probably weighed 150 or more when they ran way under four minutes. (I think Erin Donahue ran about 4:22 weighing about 150, didn't she?) As for running 4:30-4:40, well, Allan Just ran a 2:18 marathon at 5'11" and 180, so there's not much chance that a 5'10"/150-pound runner's mile ability is going to be limited by weight. And as for cutting sugar to lose weight in high school, I hope the warnings already on here are enough to dissuade any serious runner from doing that.
colder and wiser wrote:
No, stop. This is stupid and dangerous. You're a 16-year old athlete. You can't build muscle or strength or endurance or connective tissue or anything unless you're getting enough calories. Stop restricting calories and put sugar back in your diet right now, dammit. I'm serious. Go to the fridge and drink a soda or get a bowl of sugary cereal. Trying to cut weight while you're growing and working out and raising mileage is one of the stupidest ideas that thousands of people have already tried. It works for a little while, then they get injured and fall apart, at best. Stop it. Just eat healthy - and enough! - and train smart, and your weight will take care of itself.
And the rest of you, stop encouraging teenagers to restrict their diets. Idiots.
Absolutely don't cut calories. Keep it simple: train a lot and then sit down at dinner and eat what your mother or father cooked for you. It's probably a lot healthier than what they are going to serve you in college or what you are going to feed yourself in your twenties. If you are an overachiever, have seconds of the main course instead of desert.
3hr-marathoner wrote:
colder and wiser wrote:No, stop. This is stupid and dangerous. You're a 16-year old athlete. You can't build muscle or strength or endurance or connective tissue or anything unless you're getting enough calories. Stop restricting calories and put sugar back in your diet right now, dammit. I'm serious. Go to the fridge and drink a soda or get a bowl of sugary cereal. Trying to cut weight while you're growing and working out and raising mileage is one of the stupidest ideas that thousands of people have already tried. It works for a little while, then they get injured and fall apart, at best. Stop it. Just eat healthy - and enough! - and train smart, and your weight will take care of itself.
And the rest of you, stop encouraging teenagers to restrict their diets. Idiots.
Absolutely don't cut calories. Keep it simple: train a lot and then sit down at dinner and eat what your mother or father cooked for you. It's probably a lot healthier than what they are going to serve you in college or what you are going to feed yourself in your twenties. If you are an overachiever, have seconds of the main course instead of desert.
Dont try it!