1:11:53 half-marathon in CROCS by 18 y/o

He's not wearing Crocs to run fast. He's wearing Crocs so he doesn't have to blame his faith for not getting laid in college.

Ez_Mar wrote:

Sasha Pachev wrote:

It is an interesting discussion, though, to see what happens over several generations if everybody down the line stays away from alcohol, tobacco, and other harmful substances, is physically active, eats meat in moderation, and consumes a lot of fruit and vegetables.

This would have no impact on genetics over multiple generations. End of discussion.

Ye, blaspheme. Gaze upon yon giraffes whose reaching for tall trees clearly makes their necks longer and their offsprings necks longer. End of discussion!

epigenetics wrote:

Ez_Mar wrote:

This would have no impact on genetics over multiple generations. End of discussion.

incorrect

Correct. They would become Amish which is a substantial improvement over a LDS.

I saw a guy at a 5k in New England wearing Crocs almost 10 years ago. He was pretty decent. Anyway, not sure Crocs has the money to spend on endorsements. Every couple of years they're shutting down stores.

the giraffe joke is beautiful but I sadly feel the urgency to explain it because there are massive number of people who actually believe that to this very day in this country and will argue with you, sometimes vehemently, sometimes violently

it's of course because the shorter giraffes that cannot reach the tall trees end up eating less or not at all and die off or do not reproduce so you instead end up with tall giraffe genetics over many many generations

seems obvious when said but teaching it could get you prison until 1915, probably severe punishment to this day if you are in a religious cult like LDS

fdfsdf wrote:

Atras more or less wrote:

What exactly is the point of crocs though? They are shoes. Why not just get proper shoes that satisfy whatever point is being made by wearing crocs?

Sasha, weren't you all using Walmart's off-brand crocs for a long time? Something like $8 a pair, IIRC. 2000 miles for $8.

Walmart $8 variant lasted me around 500 miles or so. Official Croc brand has a thicker/more durable sole and can often go 2000+ miles. In a few odd cases, the strap broke at around 1000 miles, that was a bummer. I actually have a log of how far each went.

Also, I could see someone running in these:

http://www.crocs.com/p/crocs-men%E2%80%99s-swiftwater-sandal/15041.html?cgid=men&cid=09W#start=7

http://www.crocs.com/p/mens-crocs-kinsale-pacer/203976.html?cgid=men&cid=01R#&origin=category&srule=CatPosition-SearchPlacement-Revenue7day-PRRating-PRReviews&start=75&sz=127&prefn1=variationSize&prefv1=&prefn2=refinementColor&prefv2=&prefn3=fitGuideFit&prefv3=&prefn4=lifestyle&prefv4=

But I'm not really sure how the classics stay on your feet. Although I've never worn classic Crocs, I just think of them as being essentially heel-less.

(You have to click the link to see the shoe, the picture does not represent everything Crocs has to offer)

Atras more or less wrote:

What exactly is the point of crocs though? They are shoes. Why not just get proper shoes that satisfy whatever point is being made by wearing crocs?

I can think of a few:

- Crocs of the correct size worn with socks have never given me a blister under any circumstances. When I wore racing flats, I got blisters in every marathon, and sometimes in shorter races.

- A racing flat with an shoe lace that went undone is extremely annoying and easy to lose. Crocs, contrary to what you would think at first glance, take no super-special effort to keep on - at least for me, my wife, and my kids. Once I paced my friend through a 3 mile tempo. He was wearing racing flats. My Crocs stayed on as usual. His shoe laces came undone and the shoe came off at 2.5.

- At the start of the race I need to take off my warm-up pants. My hands are naturally clumsy. With racing flats I would need to either untie shoe laces, then retie, possibly not doing a good job in a hurry, or have to drag them over the shoes. Both cause unnecessary stress and distraction. Crocs come off much easier making the whole process smoother.

- Cost.

- It is just plain fun to stir trouble like this. If you had two pairs shoes that gave you the same performance, but one of them made people think you are an idiot, wouldn't it be fun to wear that one and then confuse everyone by achieving a normal performance in it?

Do you wear Cruggs in the winter?

You've obviously never been by the Nile.

Sasha Pachev wrote:

F u c k

Do you wear socks with the crocs? are they flexible enough for forefoot strikers?

SHOOBIE!

iwaited wrote:

Do you wear socks with the crocs? are they flexible enough for forefoot strikers?

Socks - yes. I get blisters without them.

Flexibility - They are very flexible, I think they can work for a variety of form styles. I'd say if you are thinking about it, get a pair, put them on, go for a run, and try different speeds. I cannot promise they will work for everyone, but I would say this much - if you can handle Five Fingers or a minimalistic racing flat, I would expect that Crocs will work for you as well.

Winter - depends on where you live, the quality of snow, how well the roads are plowed, if you have good socks, and how adventurous you are. If it is cold enough for the snow to be well-packed and crunchy, and there is no ice build-up, they work very well - no slowdown at all I would say. If there is slush or ice, or fresh wet snow in the temperature range of around 25-35, expect some slowdown relative to a racing flat - around 20-30 seconds per mile. But you can still run. Avoid deep snow - little snow balls build up inside the shoe and you have to stop every half mile or so to shake them out.

Freezing rain - that is perhaps the worst for the Crocs. Your feet get cold and lose their fine motor skills while the Crocs get slippery and becomes hard to keep on. But if you wear warm water-proof socks you should be OK. But still prepare to lose about 5 seconds per mile on the lack of traction.

Grass - reduced traction creates a loss of around 5-10 seconds per mile. Also harder to keep on. So we usually wear spikes/racing flats when racing cross-country.

Wind - a gust of 15+ mph can blow a Croc off on a cold day when the feet are colder and less cordinated if you are not careful. Happened to me once in a race - I lost 5-10 seconds or so. Also a few times in an easy run.

Your son is near world class for his age. If he ran with flats, he'd be actually world class. Your croc obsession has ruined him! Either:

- You've brainwashed him into thinking 11oz+ shoes are somehow better.

- He's not brainwashed, but he won't try flats because of parental pressure from his father.

- He tries out flats and does worse because of a higher perceived effort due to years of brainwashing from his father.

And finally:

- You've limited his performance by disallowing caffeine because of your terrible religion.

Shame! Shame!!!

Why am I not surprised that shoe tying would stymie someone who could be converted to a LDS?

I can see them being better than a lot of shoes as long asthey fit your feet correctly. They're super comfy, just probably not much support.

The right running shoes are always about being something that fits your foot and form correctly. I don't see why a Croc would be the wrong shoe as long as it meets that criteria.

oh please wrote:

george oscar bluth wrote:

Best thread I've read all day. Great find, OP

Dude, the OP IS the father Sacha. Trying to get some attention I guess.

Thankfully I'm not, otherwise I'd be a Mormon.

Deus vult!