Obnoxious WSJ article calling Breaking2 and Kipchoge a failure

good point--also it trivializes the work and sacrifice involved in such an endeavor--an insult to running and what it takes to be disciplined and push yourself to the edge--my god! No matter this person's cred as a runner and/or running journalist, find the tone of the piece arrogant and ignorant--which seems to be a kind of disease infecting the American landscape. No matter how one feels about Nike and this idea of pouring millions into a contrived chase, one has to admire that kind of singular devotion--especially in regards to a niche sport (at best--unfortunately!). Kipchoge should be honored for not only doing the work, but for the kind of lifestyle he's dedicated himself to--who else can do this--how many are willing to submit to such--besides the Robertson--Jake and Zane?! We should be humbled and inspired--to not be is to miss a rare opportunity for such needed qualities to get infused more abundantly into our own lives. To choose judgment, critique and a distant sarcasm instead seems an unnecessary luxury and lost opportunity.

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

What did the stunt accomplish? Convince people that Kipchoge is amazing? We already knew that. Waste of a spring for the 'thon GOAT.

At least he got a nice pay day out of it.

Waste? I can t remember the last time I watched a marathon from start to finish. This"stunt" actually had interesting bios during the race and side line reporting that even though didn't add to the race it added comedic breaks from a serious event. Only miss hear was the audio difficulties throughout

The race. Nyc chi Boston are horribly boring to watch on tv.

I'll add.... This is the type of coverage you should give RUNNING fans. I believe the sport has lost support because it has chased a main stream audience. Running is really a mainstream sport like nfl mlb nba, it should focus on catering to its base.

Kipchoge should be honored for not only doing the work,

I enjoyed watching the event, but I enjoy most marathons (real ones) and thought Kipchoge put in a incredible effort, but wouldn't he have put in an equal effort for any race he was going to participate in?

Looking forward to his next legal effort.

You mean coverage without IAAF/WADA scrutiny?

Again the author at the wsj and every poster here needs to go run 1 mile at 13.1mph then you can chime in.

These athletes are race cars and running on the streets this fast and grabbing bottles is insane. I tried last week to grab a bottle running 4:30 mile pace it's not easy... drinking liquid while running that fast is an entirely different...experience.

Running 2 hours needs less rules and less silly IAAF rules...

They need to create a committee of 2:05 marathoners and ask their thoughts.

People keep using the term (legal) it is silly. These are white -rich -old people rules.

Rules...not laws.

No one was killed or raped. We are talking about silly rules created to protect the marathon majors.

Those pesky WADA/IAAF/IOC antidoping rules hampering our elites! We should encourage everyone to dope, down to HS kids!!! Chemically enhancing your body is completely safe!!

Legal? wrote:

Again the author at the wsj and every poster here needs to go run 1 mile at 13.1mph then you can chime in.

These athletes are race cars and running on the streets this fast and grabbing bottles is insane. I tried last week to grab a bottle running 4:30 mile pace it's not easy... drinking liquid while running that fast is an entirely different...experience.

Running 2 hours needs less rules and less silly IAAF rules...

They need to create a committee of 2:05 marathoners and ask their thoughts.

People keep using the term (legal) it is silly. These are white -rich -old people rules.

Rules...not laws.

No one was killed or raped. We are talking about silly rules created to protect the marathon majors.

Virenlasse wrote:

“Dream barriers look very high until someone climbs them. They are not barriers anymore.”

— Lasse Viren

"When using a Dope Ladder you can climb any barrier."

- Lasse Viren after being caught cheating.

luv2run wrote:

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

What did the stunt accomplish? Convince people that Kipchoge is amazing? We already knew that. Waste of a spring for the 'thon GOAT.

At least he got a nice pay day out of it.

1) Served as a decent proof of concept.

2) Months of Nike marketing

3) Kevin Hart got more exposure

My favorite part of watching the attempt was seeing Eliud rally the last two laps to no loose too much time.

My SECOND favorite thing was the little clip of Kevin Hart trying to run behind the pacers at 4:37 pace. He maintained for about 10 seconds and then was done. I think that clip, more than anything else during the attempt, will help non-runners and/or hobby joggers appreciate the talent of the elite runners.

Bad Wigins wrote:

You miss that point that said feasibility was never in question if one altered the rules as they did.

Were you under a rock the entire week before the event?

"Obnoxious WSJ article" = "Unflattering photo of Kellyanne Conway"

Former d1 hack...

How are you so certain that kip doped?

-the IAAF,IOC,Wada, are as corrupt as heck... for all we know they shortened the damn Berlin Marathon to break records ....or destroyed blood tests after the race we don't know …we'll never know.

We will never be certain that any results out there.... or ever will be done clean.....apparently we can't have idols or dreams? get a grip ....the world is not perfect…Sport is not perfect never has been and never will be.

If we look at every event and every athlete with so much negative attention and criticism what's the point of any of this?

This event has been as much fun if Hoka got all their guys together and try to run to 2:14?

Obviously there's no way to guarantee that anything we ever see is perfect get over it …that was an amazing effort find amazing man and amazing team …cooler than you or I will ever do …or be part of.

Nike took a big gamble and so did Kip.... there's a time and a place to be a skeptic and there's a time and a place to be a fan.

Our sport and All-sports and life are riddled with all sorts of problems, but if we only focus on the crap like she wrote in the wsj' there won't be much ever to watch or celebrate.

Again I challenge all of the critics to head out to the track and run 1 mile at 4:35 please repeat that two times or even three times but you find me a group of people who can repeat that 15 to 20 times I'll actually listen to their skepticism and cynicism. I won't criticize something that I can't do and never will do and can't even do for the better part of 5k.

Team marathon time trial. That is an awesome idea. I want to see that.

Nike vs Adidas Teams. 12 members per team. 4 core runners who go the whole way, the other 8 are pacers who sub in and out every lap (so that initially, 4 are pacing at a time). As the race progresses, the pacers would need to run more frequently to help pace any of the 4 core runners who fall off the lead pace. Bikers/coaches are allowed to bike in a lane beside the runners to offer drinks and help with pacing strategy. Do it on a 2 mile loop course very similar to the breaking2 attempt. Each team would need to have its own lane, so the outside lane starting point would obviously be at a different spot than the inside lane start. But you could set it up so they run at the same time and finish at the same place.

The winner is the team with the lowest sum time for the 4 core runners. I want to see this! Are there any billionaires who frequent LRC who can get the ball rolling on this idea?

EK ran an amazing attempt. The fact that it wouldn't count by IAAF from the beginning, means we're obviously watching a different type of record. This was not a true road race record attempt.

Even so, he came super close. But the event was called Breaking2 and marketed a such with one goal, yes?

And while it was an extradinary attempt and beyond admirable, 2hrs was not broken. So the goal was not attained. But hardly was it a "failure".

Everyone involved with the sub2 project ran faster than any of your athletes at Cornell ever did. How's that for journalism?

Oh you bunch of haters and naysayers. If Kipchoge had done 1:59:59, there would be EXACTLY the same dismissive attitude I'm sure.

The stunt was too commercial for you? You think major city marathons are charity? Worlds are non-commercial? Olympics about the athletes? Hahahaha.

You think ANY of the major sports brand is in it to make the world a better place? Hahahahaha.

Of course it's not a RACE, or WR eligible. Nobody said it would be. Yes they boldly went for under 2:00:00 and didn't make it. The fact that everyone is still talking about it shows that they still accomplished one of the major goals.

Great logic. Because the IAAF/WADA are corrupt lets just not have them test at all and let the commercial interests manage testing on their own!!

This. This. This.

It was all about the TESLA. You are magic trick believeing fools if you think otherwise.

This was a piece of theatre similar to Copperfield and the Great Wall of China

If you want to know the secret

Kimetto = GOAT