This attempt is similar to the hour attempt in cycling. It adds interest to running.
This attempt is similar to the hour attempt in cycling. It adds interest to running.
Bobby1 wrote:
This attempt is similar to the hour attempt in cycling. It adds interest to running.
This, it was and still is trending top 2 on twitter and it's almost 9am, the best part is how much the non runners are appreciating with Kipchoge was doing vs focusing on Nike, unfortunately all th trash here can't appreciate the fact this man covered 26.2 miles in 2:00:25.
I walked away from the sport competitively a few years ago after my NCAA eligibility was up to move to the "real world". This makes me want to race again. No athlete has made me want to compete again the way Kipchoge did last night.
Stayed up until 2 or whatever it was EST, that was amazing
kmaclam wrote:
Quite a spectacle! Worth being groggy in the morning for....
Ditto. It's one of those things I'm grateful I got to see.
2:00:25, whatever, we all know he would suck in a 50K or 100K. If he really wanted to prove something he would be running ultras instead.
That was awesome.
It makes you wonder how this changes his approach without drafting. Knowing you can cover the distance in 2:00:25 has to set his mind ablaze.
There's got to be some big leaps by other runners after this as well. This changes everything and I was skeptical before it took place. It would have been so underwhelming for him to have run 2:02:xx.
I feel like this is going to turn running into a "year by year" sport. What I mean is the technology in shoes/equipment changes so much now that we can't really compare records or times from elite guys 10,15,20 years ago because of the technological differences. Because now some will say that Rodgers or Salazar could've run XYZ with "performance enhancing shoes" which is what I think they are. Do y'all think these shoes are better or worse for the sport???
Gotta bee wrote:
Bobby1 wrote:This attempt is similar to the hour attempt in cycling. It adds interest to running.
This, it was and still is trending top 2 on twitter and it's almost 9am, the best part is how much the non runners are appreciating with Kipchoge was doing vs focusing on Nike, unfortunately all th trash here can't appreciate the fact this man covered 26.2 miles in 2:00:25.
Totally agree! Nike did a FANTASTIC JOB of producing this event! Track meets and Big city Marathons could learn a few things from this production. Obviously this will help Nike sell their stuff, but I think the event highlighted the talent of Eliud instead of detracting from it. In that sense, Nike deserves a ton of praise for what they did here.
Essentially this showed that with more frequent access to drinks, and with continuous pacers who stayed with Eliud even when he started to struggle the last 3 miles, Eliud was able to take 152 seconds off the WR! (I know its not record eligible, but it is still amazing)
The non-running world may hear of this result and think, "well he didn't break 2, so it was a failure." But Its ironic that the LRCers who were the most critical of this attempt (myself included), are probably the most impressed with what Eliud just did!
It was hard to understand his post race interview. But I think when he was asked about the final 2 laps, he said he knew he was falling off the pace, but he kept trying and was "running out of my mind."
Even if he retired today and didn't run another race in his life, Eliud=GOAT Marathoner!
You know what this means...
Which marathon will be the first to start to allow supplying water/nutrition on-demand during a race? (Some non-major w a RD wanting to draw some attention.) Then others will follow. Then pacers who can hop in and out during a race. Then...
This is the beginning of race rules evolution.
Only a couple Bostons/NYCs will hold out as long as possible.
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube...
So long the prevailing wisdom has been that humans can't get to 2 hours. That is too much of a leap in performance, we'll be lucky to see anyone hit 2:02.
Now every elite runner knows, it's possible. Not easy at all. But the human body can propel forward at 4:34 for 26.2 miles.
I hope this performance is one that inspires a spate of records to fall the next few years in marathons around the world.
Bobby1 wrote:
This attempt is similar to the hour attempt in cycling. It adds interest to running.
QFE. It's a display of human performance and science. People eat that shish up.
serious question: what kind of recovery time would a super-elite like Kipchoge need to run a regular road marathon after this and do his sub-2:05 magic?
three months? less? more?
typically hear of elites waiting six months between major marathons for peak performance, I suspect they really only need half that but what is reality?
At some point during the men's 5k slow heat at Payton Jordan one of the announcers said the pace was slower than that in the sub-2 attempt. That really put things into perspective for me. Awesome effort by Kipchoge. If I did the math correctly, his pace was equivalent to a 14:14.6 5k.
Bobby1 wrote:
This attempt is similar to the hour attempt in cycling. It adds interest to running.
Totally agree. This event has done more for elite marathoning and Kipchoge himself than anything else in the last 10 years. So many people (non-runners and definitely not fans of professional running) are talking about this. This will honestly be bigger for Kipchoge's career than the gold medal he won last year (even if that's sad, it's true).
And man he was close. A truly impressive performance.
I am disappointed at the tone from letsrun admins (esp. rojo's immature tweet last night). If the sport wants to progress and get people interested again they need to think outside the box and do stuff like this to get people's attention. This isn't dishonoring running, this event provided a showcase for a truly amazing athlete to show the general public what he can really do.
This, it was and still is trending top 2 on twitter and it's almost 9am, the best part is how much the non runners are appreciating with Kipchoge was doing vs focusing on Nike, unfortunately all th trash here can't appreciate the fact this man covered 26.2 miles in 2:00:25.
but why wrote:
serious question: what kind of recovery time would a super-elite like Kipchoge need to run a regular road marathon after this and do his sub-2:05 magic?
three months? less? more?
typically hear of elites waiting six months between major marathons for peak performance, I suspect they really only need half that but what is reality?
They were suggesting that the extra cushion on the shoes might decrease recovery time. Who knows if that is true or not.
Can't sub-2 800m wrote:
Props to Kipchoge for running such an amazing effort.
Now let's talk sub-2 marathons. If we can't break the barrier with perfect pacing, ideal conditions, ideal nutrition strategies, Nike money and support, and custom shoes that work controversially well, then it doesn't look like people will be cracking 2:00 in races any time in the near future.
We have no idea if Kipchoge felt the best he ever has in his life though. Maybe he was feeling no better than when he was running 2:05. For some people 25 seconds is the difference on their mile time between a good and a bad day
NativeSon wrote:
Kipchoge needs to go for the world record in Berlin in 2017.
Why is this not the WR already?
Bobby1 wrote:
This attempt is similar to the hour attempt in cycling. It adds interest to running.
No pacers and they race for distance not times.
Not much of a similarity. More like the cycle part of a tri which is a drafted waste of time on a flat course.
Short course Protection Factor?
Drug testing?