Has anyone run a 10.7 100m, and a 14:30 5k?

Amen. I think only SG knows.

Welcome back SG! Ever run under 14:30? :)

Craig Engels said he ran 10.7 for a 100m and I'm sure he could run 14:30

yes.

thedub wrote:

I am having a heated discussion with my roommate. He is under the impression that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run a 10.7 100m and also be able to run a 14:30 5k.

I believe that someone with a 1:44 800 PR could accomplish both of these times.

people with the gift of running, can run fast in all distances, it's difficult at the same time, but a 10.7 runner with right training can run a fast 5k (not extremely fast obviously).

Zede wrote:

thedub wrote:

I am having a heated discussion with my roommate. He is under the impression that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run a 10.7 100m and also be able to run a 14:30 5k.

I believe that someone with a 1:44 800 PR could accomplish both of these times.

people with the gift of running, can run fast in all distances, it's difficult at the same time, but a 10.7 runner with right training can run a fast 5k (not extremely fast obviously).

Maybe they could but nobody has recorded these times as far as I know

Here is a good contender

Another Ovett ran sprints as a teen and never broke 11.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Zede wrote:

people with the gift of running, can run fast in all distances, it's difficult at the same time, but a 10.7 runner with right training can run a fast 5k (not extremely fast obviously).

Maybe they could but nobody has recorded these times as far as I know

Here is a good contender

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juha_V%C3%A4%C3%A4t%C3%A4inen

Another Ovett ran sprints as a teen and never broke 11.

An elite athlete has not interest to do such an experiment, he remains specialized in his principal distance.

But the world best athletes have the base features to do something like this.

Van Niekerk with 5-6 months of proper training i think could run a 2'54" 5k, that is however 23" from WR.

Maybe it's more difficult for distance runner, need more adaptation.

We see also a Ashton Eaton running tired, a 4'14" 1500, 83Kg man.

HardLoper wrote:

There's a book that says Vaatainen's PB from his sprinting days was 11.1.

I read that it was 10.8. He was a 400m hurdler at the time and had not moved up to 10000m.

Stats.gangsta_the_real_1 wrote:

Xanax wrote:

I'm not convinced that Rudisha could go under 14:30 without some distance-focused training.

From what I've heard, Rudisha already does distance focused training. I think I heard that he trains with some of the elite Kenyan distance runners. I don't think 14:30 would be a problem for Rudisha at all:

45.15 and 1:40.91...

100 0:10.52

200 0:20.46

400 0:45.15

800 1:40.91

1000 2:10.85

1500 3:29.22

1-mile 3:46.84

3000 7:43.19

2-mile 8:21.75

5000 13:47.66

10000 30:08.28

half-mara 69:27.88

marathon 150:00.8

http://timescalculator.appspot.com

Keep in mind that Rudisha wanted to be a distance runner, like the majority of runners in Kenya. However, he was talked into running 800 meters.

Rudisha would be able to do it.

Not. No way Rudisha could run a FAT 10.7

If you adjust for the period he was running in, I'm pretty sure Rudolf Harbig would have been able to run the equivalent of that.

He ran 10.7 for the 100m many times...in the 1930s! At the same time, he was running a 1:46 800m WR and a 2:21 1000m WR. He would run one 1500m every season for most of his career, and just like all his other times he was improving each year, but unfortunately he stopped running them when he reached his peak and the year he smashed the 800m WR. The year before he got close to 4 minutes for the 1500m when the WR was 3:48. Given that two years later he smashed the 1000m WR, it's reasonable to belive that he was capable of at least 3:57 for the 1500m.

So with those abilities today, he would probably be running something like :

100m - 10.0

800m - 1:40

1500m 3:40

He surely would be able to go well under 14:30 for the 5000m.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Cruz was probably the only one capable of such a feet. Maybe Andre Bucher or Borzakovskiy.

Kipketer, Murphy, Rudisha etc

I don't know about Harbig, but a hand-timed 10.7 in the 1930's is not equal to a 10-flat today.

How do I know? Because I myself have run hand-timed 10.7's on a lumpy cinder track in 1930's conditions...worse actually, a few times having done it in Adidas Match (canvas and thick rubber soled shoes from the late 70's/early 80's, no spikes.

A hand 10.7 from around then would be worth 10.4's FAT now, 10.3's FAT at best.

Still, that beats the criterion of 10.7!

I think that if it is possible, it will be an 800m guy who would be able to do it, but not a long, thin, loping-style like Rudisha. That first 30m from blocks is critical, it needs someone tighter and springier.

I don't know about Harbig, but I'm pretty sure that he never actually achieved these times.

I think we should stick to the modern era, and look for actual times that have been achieved, like I found for Fisher.

I don't think that decathletes are the right place to look. A bunch are faster than 10.7, but they're just too big from the throws to go 14:30. Believe me when I tell you, there is no way any decathlete is going 14:30, ever :)

Veteran poster wrote:

Amen. I think only SG knows.

Welcome back SG! Ever run under 14:30? :)

Uh, no. I remember maybe 10 or more years back on this board when I got sick, lost some weight, and ran around 18:30, I thought it was a major achievement!

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Zede wrote:

people with the gift of running, can run fast in all distances, it's difficult at the same time, but a 10.7 runner with right training can run a fast 5k (not extremely fast obviously).

Maybe they could but nobody has recorded these times as far as I know

Here is a good contender

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juha_V%C3%A4%C3%A4t%C3%A4inen

Another Ovett ran sprints as a teen and never broke 11.

Dude I know someone personally who has prs of 10.7,21.7,47,1:50,4:08,14:09. It has been done bro. He was a sprinter turned distance runner.

Galen Rupp's 5000 PR is 12:58 and can reportedly run a 10.9.

RejectJogger wrote:

Dude I know someone personally who has prs of 10.7,21.7,47,1:50,4:08,14:09. It has been done bro. He was a sprinter turned distance runner.

Who is it?

A guy who works at my school. I'm not giving out his name cause people are weird and will do dumb sh*t.

RejectJogger wrote:

A guy who works at my school. I'm not giving out his name cause people are weird and will do dumb sh*t.

He's funning you. Don't believe everything people tell you.

name this individual for us, please wrote:

RejectJogger wrote:

A guy who works at my school. I'm not giving out his name cause people are weird and will do dumb sh*t.

He's funning you. Don't believe everything people tell you.

He's really not. He still runs at age 60 and can go 18 minutes in a 5k and has a sh*t ton of newspaper clippings and medals that prove him right. I know it sounds crazy but hes really done it