I am having a heated discussion with my roommate. He is under the impression that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run a 10.7 100m and also be able to run a 14:30 5k.
I believe that someone with a 1:44 800 PR could accomplish both of these times.
I am having a heated discussion with my roommate. He is under the impression that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run a 10.7 100m and also be able to run a 14:30 5k.
I believe that someone with a 1:44 800 PR could accomplish both of these times.
Maybe a prime Rudisha
thedub wrote:
I am having a heated discussion with my roommate. He is under the impression that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run a 10.7 100m and also be able to run a 14:30 5k.
I believe that someone with a 1:44 800 PR could accomplish both of these times.
With a good reaction time and block-training, a speed-oriented 1:44 guy should be able to go 10.7.
Unfortunately we don't really have any data points (i.e. a distance runner who has attempted a 200).
I'm not convinced that Rudisha could go under 14:30 without some distance-focused training.
I can think of a few 800 guys with that kind of speed...
Can imagine Rudisha, Kszczot and Alfred Kipketer managing that. Maybe Korir (although not sure of endurance). And possibly a 2013 Duane Solomon and/or prime Bekele?!
10.7 from blocks is seriously fast for a distance runner. I think I agree more with your roommate than I do with you
The DL pacer Bram Som has run a 10.97 100m and a 31:01 road 10K. I don't think he has a 5k on the books, but considering he ran a 3:42 1500m I think it's a safe bet he could have run under 14:30 on a track at his prime. Whether he could have chopped .2 off his 100m is up for debate though.
I think it would be possible with the right guy. Maybe look for a college sprinter that took to the roads after graduating.
thedub wrote:
I am having a heated discussion with my roommate. He is under the impression that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run a 10.7 100m and also be able to run a 14:30 5k.
I believe that someone with a 1:44 800 PR could accomplish both of these times.
whether you believe him or not, Bekele stated his 100m PR is 11.0 in an interview a while back.
Xanax wrote:
thedub wrote:I am having a heated discussion with my roommate. He is under the impression that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run a 10.7 100m and also be able to run a 14:30 5k.
I believe that someone with a 1:44 800 PR could accomplish both of these times.
With a good reaction time and block-training, a speed-oriented 1:44 guy should be able to go 10.7.
Most elite 800m runners would struggle to break 11
Here the closest example I can find:
21.7 200m 13:20 5,000m
I doubt he would have run as fast as 10.7 for 100m though
http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=2424Provide a link to anyone who has beaten that
I don't think there's been anybody on the books that has ever done this. But maybe someone like Robby Andrews might have it?
So far from an elite guy but wasn't there a guy who was a converted college sprinter on herr who was trying to qualify or did qualify for the OT marathon? I think his namr was Chad and he may have been from the Sacramento area? It's been a while but he may have been around those marks.
If you want ti find somebody I think it'd be easier to find somebody like that who sqeezed under both standards rather than looking for an elite 800 guy
bigtool05 wrote:
10.7 from blocks is seriously fast for a distance runner. I think I agree more with your roommate than I do with you
10.7 is seriously impossible for a distance or even 800m runner. It would have to be a former sprinter turned distance runner like Juha Vaatainen. Roommate is probably right.
I have a 10.86 FAT 100 PR and a 14:52 5k. As others have already said, I sprinted in college but shifted to 1500/5000 in my twenties. This could clearly never happen at the same time, but over a career it seems quite possible. My body type shifted quite a bit over this timeframe as I stopped lifting and started running longer and slower leading to a lot less weight.
Maybe Brandon Johnson if he trained for both at one point? 6.84 60m and 1:43 800m.
bcdj wrote:
Maybe Brandon Johnson if he trained for both at one point? 6.84 60m and 1:43 800m.
I think he's also run like 3:45 or so in the 1500 but I'm not sure where his drop off is/was (I say was because he's nowhere near his 2013 1:43 form anymore).
Clayton Murphy, 24:03 for 8k XC, 46(relay) 400m
HardLoper wrote:
bigtool05 wrote:10.7 from blocks is seriously fast for a distance runner. I think I agree more with your roommate than I do with you
10.7 is seriously impossible for a distance or even 800m runner. It would have to be a former sprinter turned distance runner like Juha Vaatainen. Roommate is probably right.
You guys are out of your mind if you don't think an athlete with a sub 46 400m time can't do a 10.7.
D3 chose me wrote:
Clayton Murphy, 24:03 for 8k XC, 46(relay) 400m
His 100m is 11.83... close but not really
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Xanax wrote:With a good reaction time and block-training, a speed-oriented 1:44 guy should be able to go 10.7.
Most elite 800m runners would struggle to break 11
Here the closest example I can find:
21.7 200m 13:20 5,000m
I doubt he would have run as fast as 10.7 for 100m though
http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=2424Provide a link to anyone who has beaten that
This guy shows it's entirely possible though. You're close to being there at the sprint end, and destroying it from the other end.
I've ran 1:44 high and in that shape I probably wouldn't have broken 11.2 from blocks. For reference my coach had me hand time, running start, strides at 10.5.
i knew guys that were faster and stronger than me that might be able to put at 10.7 14:30 together. But I don't see it happening at the same time of year
i think this would be on the talent level of being able to win a diamond league, if not harder.
Lewandowski has a 10.64 100m pr and 3.37 1500m pr.
No 5000m listed but 3.37 for 15 has to be decent endurance, right?
Oh, thise times are from the iaaf website by the way
Seems Possible wrote:
I have a 10.86 FAT 100 PR and a 14:52 5k. As others have already said, I sprinted in college but shifted to 1500/5000 in my twenties. This could clearly never happen at the same time, but over a career it seems quite possible. My body type shifted quite a bit over this timeframe as I stopped lifting and started running longer and slower leading to a lot less weight.
Yeah. I think this is the model.
I don't think anybody can do both at the same time.
You were sort of close-ish on both marks.