Ueli Steck Killed

He is still such an inspiration. I am sympathetic towards his family.

Hubris more likely. He singlehandedly ticked off hundreds of Sherpas by being a dangerous and condescending jackass.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-22336540

rojo wrote:

Hubris sounds right. What kind of person wold try this?

quote]BBC wrote:

Steck was preparing to climb Mount Everest using its West Ridge, a route which has been the cause of more deaths than successful ascents, followed by Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain in the world.

That's amazing to me. How many have made it up the West ridge and ho many have died? And why is the West so much harder than the other way?[/quote]

Much more difficult...significant technical climbing at high altitude (i.e. No fixed ropes), and many, many natural obstacles not under your control: seracs, avalanches, etc. Also, there are very few places to actually "camp", so longer than normal pushes must be made. Steck had been to 7000m on an acclimatization push very recently. Very sad, but elite mountaineers mostly have a very short shelf life. He was a super hard charger.

Policia Federal wrote:

rojo wrote:

Hubris sounds right. What kind of person wold try this?

quote]BBC wrote:

Steck was preparing to climb Mount Everest using its West Ridge, a route which has been the cause of more deaths than successful ascents, followed by Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain in the world.

That's amazing to me. How many have made it up the West ridge and ho many have died? And why is the West so much harder than the other way?

Much more difficult...significant technical climbing at high altitude (i.e. No fixed ropes), and many, many natural obstacles not under your control: seracs, avalanches, etc. Also, there are very few places to actually "camp", so longer than normal pushes must be made. Steck had been to 7000m on an acclimatization push very recently. Very sad, but elite mountaineers mostly have a very short shelf life. He was a super hard charger.[/quote]

"elite mountaineer" sounds like a more rich/lily-white fraternity than "PGA tour golfer" or "elite ultrarunner/trailrunner" lol.

rojo wrote:

Hubris sounds right. What kind of person wold try this?

quote]BBC wrote:

Steck was preparing to climb Mount Everest using its West Ridge, a route which has been the cause of more deaths than successful ascents, followed by Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain in the world.

That's amazing to me. How many have made it up the West ridge and ho many have died? And why is the West so much harder than the other way?[/quote]

Good god your website is f*cking toxic

kjhg wrote:

Either by Sherpas, an accident, or something strange,

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39761904

Something fishy. My first thought was the Sherpas.

Two threads started on Ueli, the first was better, respectful people and no trolls.

This one has girly-men, except for me an about, maybe, 2 others people.

Does the name Iñaki Ochoa de Olza ring a bell? If not then you've not followed Ueli online for too long.

Iñaki Ochoa de Olza died, I believe, in Ueli's arms. Ueli wasn't your average climbers, runner or speed alpinist. He was harder and tougher than the average man or even harder than the average elite.

How would you handle holding someone in your arms that is dying of vomiting, cerebral pains, delusions and diarrhea?

One tough person, mind-blowing his drive, skills, and everything else.

He feared nothing, absolutely nothing.

hermes link ice blue mink wrote:

Policia Federal wrote:

That's amazing to me. How many have made it up the West ridge and ho many have died? And why is the West so much harder than the other way?

Much more difficult...significant technical climbing at high altitude (i.e. No fixed ropes), and many, many natural obstacles not under your control: seracs, avalanches, etc. Also, there are very few places to actually "camp", so longer than normal pushes must be made. Steck had been to 7000m on an acclimatization push very recently. Very sad, but elite mountaineers mostly have a very short shelf life. He was a super hard charger.

"elite mountaineer" sounds like a more rich/lily-white fraternity than "PGA tour golfer" or "elite ultrarunner/trailrunner" lol.[/quote]

Actually, most live like homeless in tents for months of the year, and have relatively little to no money. Sponsors help, but they are few, and what they do give certainly doesn't make one wealthy by any stretch of the imagination.

He did fear death. He said it himself.

The part about all his body parts being gathered says it all. I read a few of Messner's books back when I was a novice and decided to become a rock jock instead. 35 years later all my body parts are still together (some days more than others).

Is Jornet going back this year?

Trump_better_listen wrote:

Two threads started on Ueli, the first was better, respectful people and no trolls.

This one has girly-men, except for me an about, maybe, 2 others people.

Does the name Iñaki Ochoa de Olza ring a bell? If not then you've not followed Ueli online for too long.

Iñaki Ochoa de Olza died, I believe, in Ueli's arms. Ueli wasn't your average climbers, runner or speed alpinist. He was harder and tougher than the average man or even harder than the average elite.

How would you handle holding someone in your arms that is dying of vomiting, cerebral pains, delusions and diarrhea?

One tough person, mind-blowing his drive, skills, and everything else.

He feared nothing, absolutely nothing.

You are an SJW Moran. Olza died after several days in a medical tent because he had too much hubris and refused to use bottled oxygen on climbs. There was bad weather on the climb which means low air pressure. This means an even lower than usual amount of available oxygen in the air. It was entirely preventable and foreseeable but these type of people are just asking to go to hell by making stupid dangerous decisions.

His death will add glory to the first guy who manages to traverse the West Ridge + Lhotse.

The first climber I ever met was Tom Hornbein, who did the first ascent of the W Ridge. He came and talked to our high school class about mountaineering. Fantastic guy; I was lucky enough to be acquainted with him years later through our climbing gym. Anything but an egoic glory hound. Just humble and enthusiastic, and an accomplished academic.

rojo wrote:

Hubris sounds right. What kind of person wold try this?

quote]BBC wrote:

Steck was preparing to climb Mount Everest using its West Ridge, a route which has been the cause of more deaths than successful ascents, followed by Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain in the world.

That's amazing to me. How many have made it up the West ridge and ho many have died? And why is the West so much harder than the other way?[/quote]

your such a jackazz Rojo. Keep gloating while you jiggle your mantits watching tv tonight and pretend you don't encurage this site's racism.

Ueli RIP, a great athlete and inspiration.

I don't understand glorifying this activity. Things can be tough and yet dumb.

Rojo is not gloating. What these guys do is just dumb and moronic especially with their no oxygen, no safety line, no back up decisions. They are just stupid.

4x800 wrote:

your such a jackazz Rojo. Keep gloating while you jiggle your mantits watching tv tonight and pretend you don't encurage this site's racism.

Did Mr. Steck identify as a black?

rojo wrote:

Hubris sounds right. What kind of person wold try this?

Asks the guy who operates a website about distance running. smh.

Also, he didn't die on the West ridge, nor was it a summit attempt at all. He was climbing up the Nuptse (a peak immediately adjacent to Everest) for the day to get used to the altitude and, presumably, scout future routes. It seems he fell in one of the many places where you simply can't fall.

A good source about what happened, and the context, is

Finally, even though he was Swiss, Steck's English was better than yours Rojo.