Cas Loxsom no longer a Beast?

Now that the Cas mystery has been uncovered, Anybody suggest a replacement coach (from college ranks?). Who could rock that job any better than Danny?

Notabeast wrote:

Seattle Slewed wrote:

Cas doesn't have a kick. Never will. Gondak isn't responsible for Harris' success. Harris's toolbox was already complete when he got to Penn State. Harris is a beast, a real BEAST.

Tough month for Cas. Booted from the Beasts. Harris breaks his school record.

Harris has no speed. Which is why he is only a 1:45 runner.

What the heck are you talking about?

21.8 and 46.8 for the open 200 and 400 in high school. Split 45.2 on the anchor leg of Penn States 3:07 4x4 at the B1g ten meet outdoor

Trump2020OP wrote:

What is Angela Bizzarri up to these days. I assume her contract wasn't renewed last year. Did she retire or still running? Always liked her.

Angela Bizzarri is no longer running competitively and is actually now enrolled in med school in CA.

Was he *ever* a beast?

Is there anything more JV than the coach of the Brooks Beasts able to continue to coach a Brooks athlete who was fired? Does Danny get paid by Brooks for the Beasts and then charge the athletes sponsored by non-Brooks athletes separately? Seems ridiculous.

Paul Merca had an article about it on his blog.

"According to an email sent to paulmerca.blogspot.com by Brooks spokesperson Derek Lactaoen, Loxsom was dismissed from the team, '...based on the grounds that he broke team conduct rules on multiple occasions. Dismissing Cas was in the best interest of the Beasts, and was not drug or alcohol related. Cas is an outstanding athlete, and we wish him the best.' "

http://paulmerca.blogspot.com/2017/04/cas-loxsom-no-longer-part-of-brooks.html

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Notabeast wrote:

Harris has no speed. Which is why he is only a 1:45 runner.

What the heck are you talking about?

21.8 and 46.8 for the open 200 and 400 in high school. Split 45.2 on the anchor leg of Penn States 3:07 4x4 at the B1g ten meet outdoor

Kind of simple. I'm talking about the 800, where one is considered fast when running at least 1:44-something. True world class is sub 1:43.

He is an 800 runner no? I don't care if he can run 1.6 seconds for 10 yards, or a 47 400. If he can't run faster than 1:45 then he has no real 800 speed.

"Harris has no speed. Which is why he is only a 1:45 runner. Harris has only run 1:45 which is why he has no speed."

Your parents failed you.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Loxsom has issued a statement to LetsRun.com about his departure:

Cas wrote:

I can give a quick statement. I am no longer with Brooks, but am still coached by Danny Mackey. I still live in Seattle and will be training there after Shanghai Diamond League through USAs. I am currently looking for a new sponsor. The issue in question is a personal matter between the team, Brooks and myself, but I can say it's not drug related.

More here:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/04/cas-loxsom-worlds-fastest-man-600m-issues-statement-confirming-hes-left-brooks-beasts/

I stayed up with this thread hopting, that eventually, Cas would respond.

The power of LR.

Notabeast wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

What the heck are you talking about?

21.8 and 46.8 for the open 200 and 400 in high school. Split 45.2 on the anchor leg of Penn States 3:07 4x4 at the B1g ten meet outdoor

Kind of simple. I'm talking about the 800, where one is considered fast when running at least 1:44-something. True world class is sub 1:43.

He is an 800 runner no? I don't care if he can run 1.6 seconds for 10 yards, or a 47 400. If he can't run faster than 1:45 then he has no real 800 speed.

Your logic is flawed. You said he has no speed which is WHY he is only a 1:45 guy. He does in-fact have speed, and has been cutting down his times pretty consistently for only being a sophomore.

If you had said something like, "He's just a slow 1:45 runner" or something along those lines, you would have made sense.

Kind of simple, no?

Those 3 are all lesbians??

Notabeast wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

What the heck are you talking about?

21.8 and 46.8 for the open 200 and 400 in high school. Split 45.2 on the anchor leg of Penn States 3:07 4x4 at the B1g ten meet outdoor

Kind of simple. I'm talking about the 800, where one is considered fast when running at least 1:44-something. True world class is sub 1:43.

He is an 800 runner no? I don't care if he can run 1.6 seconds for 10 yards, or a 47 400. If he can't run faster than 1:45 then he has no real 800 speed.

Hey NotaBeast,

What is slow was your 2:02 in high school. When you "improved'"to 2:01 in college, we all really knew you were a BEAST.

----If Harris is slow, then WTF does that make your speed? Frikkin' backwards moving molasses hobby Dooosh slow?

I don't think anyone can say the Mackey is a good coach. He may be a nice guy but he is certainly not producing as a coach. Look at the Olympic Trials last year.

BTC: 11 Athletes, 6 Qualifiers, 1 Medal

ORPJT: 6 Athletes, 3 Qualifiers, 2 Medals

OTC: 10 Athletes, 2 Qualifiers

Brooks Beasts: 10 Athletes, 0 Qualifiers

OhBoy wrote:

I don't think anyone can say the Mackey is a good coach. He may be a nice guy but he is certainly not producing as a coach. Look at the Olympic Trials last year.

BTC: 11 Athletes, 6 Qualifiers, 1 Medal

ORPJT: 6 Athletes, 3 Qualifiers, 2 Medals

OTC: 10 Athletes, 2 Qualifiers

Brooks Beasts: 10 Athletes, 0 Qualifiers

All of these clubs are older, have more funding, and can attract better talent. I'm not trying to defend mackey, as I agree that he may be a little green, but this is an unfair comparison. At the time of the trials, the club was only 2 or 3 years old.

Cas Loxsom, why do so many people give a crap who? Really.

,mjnhgfd wrote:

Cas Loxsom, why do so many people give a crap who?

This question does not make sense.

OhBoy wrote:

I don't think anyone can say the Mackey is a good coach. He may be a nice guy but he is certainly not producing as a coach. Look at the Olympic Trials last year.

BTC: 11 Athletes, 6 Qualifiers, 1 Medal

ORPJT: 6 Athletes, 3 Qualifiers, 2 Medals

OTC: 10 Athletes, 2 Qualifiers

Brooks Beasts: 10 Athletes, 0 Qualifiers

Why not a comparison to similar clubs? NY/NJ? Naz Elite? Hudson Elite? ZAP, BAA, Furman. Maybe compare based on Olympic standards that are less prone to one-offs or outliers in groups?

jamin wrote:

He did not set a real WR. He ran an INDOOR record for an obscure distance. There are 100 guys in the world who could run faster than what he ran. Also I remember Nick Symmonds said that Cas Loxsom can run 20.X, but I saw him run at an all-comers meet last summer and his FAT time was 22.X.

1. Nobody has run faster. It's an indoor world record. Surely it could be lowered but it is what it is. He also was the fastest man in the world indoors this year.

2. What meet was it? All-comers to where? The 20:x actually happened in a flotrack WOW video from last year. Looks like you didn't watch it, and unless you have more info that 22.X never happened.

Just as a minor edit, OTC had 3 qualifiers (Mead, Blankenship, Jock). But 100% agree on the overall point.

OhBoy wrote:

I don't think anyone can say the Mackey is a good coach. He may be a nice guy but he is certainly not producing as a coach. Look at the Olympic Trials last year.

BTC: 11 Athletes, 6 Qualifiers, 1 Medal

ORPJT: 6 Athletes, 3 Qualifiers, 2 Medals

OTC: 10 Athletes, 2 Qualifiers

Brooks Beasts: 10 Athletes, 0 Qualifiers