His ex agent and some ex teammates say he wasn't wired that way.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/aaron-hernandez-agent-isnt-convinced-suicide-least-one-person-might-agree-142229813.html
I guess I'd respond to that by saying while I was shocked he killed himself given that days ago he was mouthing "I love you" to his girl, I don't think we know how anyone would react to a life in prison sentence. I mean now that he had the satisfaction of beating the guy accusing him of murder, what did he have to look forward to? Nothing basically.
So I can see how maybe he just said "F it. I'm out" even if he initially wasn't wired that way.
But the thing I don't get is what do these other people think happened? Hernandez is a huge dude. 250 pounds of muscle.How would someone go in there and hang him without him putting up a huge fight. These people implying he was murdered, don't they realize he'd have bruises and what not all over his body.
How would they get in their and hang him secretly without him putting up a fight?
How would you possibly do that without leaving tons of marks?
Grab him when he was asleep or something?
Apparently lots of people who knew Aaron Hernandez don't think he killed himself - what do the think happened?
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Does getting tazed leave a mark? Maybe it was some vigilante guards.
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First off, his life in prison sentence was given to him two years ago so it did not just happen. I can't imagine he had a 2 year delayed reaction.
Second, the people who are saying he wasn't wired that way were probably also saying that he isn't wired to kill another person.
Lastly, I don't know what they think happened. Maybe the two dudes he was acquitted of killing belonged to a gang that has some really big dudes (weight wise and gentleman region wise) in prison that were going to destroy Hernandez so he decided it wasn't worth living in prison getting beaten, sent to the infirmary, released back into general population, beaten again, sent to the infirmary, released again over and over again for decades. The fact that proves this probably wasn't a murder is the cell was barricaded from the inside. So there was no way someone could have snuck in and killed him and left. Unless the entire story is fabricated and he wasn't hanged and he in fact died from blunt force.
Relating this to running, remember before the Boston Marathon bombers were caught their parents said there's no way their kids could do this? Even though the kids were on caught on live TV shooting at police... Point is family and friends don't know how to react to this kind of stuff. -
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First off, his life in prison sentence was given to him two years ago so it did not just happen. I can't imagine he had a 2 year delayed reaction.
Second, the people who are saying he wasn't wired that way were probably also saying that he isn't wired to kill another person.
Stuff changes. Maybe he realized he isn't going back to court any time soon and was going to be spending more time in a cell by himself. Heck sucide is often an impulsive choice when opportunity and depression come together.
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I don't think you know how the prison system works. He was not in general population, he was in a single cell and gets 1 hour every 24 to walk outside his cell in a small yard, alone. Do that for a while and let me know how you would feel. Shirley prison is pretty much maximum security, although it is classified as medium. That means sold doors, little opening for looking inside, so he is not going to be watched or seen 24/7, if he is not on suicide watch. They patrol the units and look in apparently once an hour, but maybe once every two hours. He had plenty of time to rip up his sheets and hang himself. If that did happen and if his door was blocked from the inside.
The only think you might consider is that the report is not correct (made up) and something else actually happened. However, that should come out as this death will be thoroughly investigated and not just from inside the DOC.
What he may have discovered is if he is dead his initial guilty conviction is vacated by a technicality, which then opens the door to his lawyers going after the Patriots to pay him his contract. That would provide some money for his daughter, if the lawyers don't spend it all fighting this. To me that is a long shot, but still in play. -
Who gives a damn. Whatever happened they just saved the cost of incarcerating a man for forty or fifty years. Just applaud and move on.
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Hard to barricade a door from the inside if you didn't do it yourself.
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C'mon Robert, you are smarter than this. Any dude who is stupid and impulsive enough to jeopardize his $40 million NFL contract by murdering his friend and not making any attempt to hide the corpse is also stupid and impulsive enough to hang himself in the middle of the night in jail.
I have never been to jail, but I am close to two well-known people who have been there and lived long enough to get out and talk about it. I think that the environment in jail / prison changes a man, and not for the better. -
Though found innocent of those murders this week, it doesn't mean he was innocent and that weighs on his mind. He did the murders high on angel dust, weed and booze and had to sober up in the can and face up to what he's done. Also, being able to wiggle out of this case and then the first murder on appeal, his death means his baby mama and daughter may, and its a big may, get some of that Patriots money. But no way that $40 mil contract he signed was guaranteed in full.
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He was a big, tough Latin King.....lol. Nobody was gonna disrespect him, yo.
Hahaha....Millions of dollars....all the women he could handle.... Yet he still had to revert to the cowardly ways of gang activity.
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It was probably a love spat over one of his sex masters. That's how prison life is.
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Latest news in Boston is that he wrote John 3:16 on his forehead in red and left a Bible open to that verse on his cot reinforcing my belief that he finally accepted that he had done evil deeds and must pay for them and is now on the express train to hell.
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He made alot of dear, cuddly friends during his time in prison. He will be sadly missed by them.
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would be an interesting interpretation of that particular verse
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I think what happened is he killed himself.
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Beatin' off with asphyxiation, just like that Kung Fu actor. Obviously had seen Fast Times at Ridgemont High, so he barricaded door so no one would walk in on him.
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All the clues point to the guilty party being Tim Tebow in the jail cell with the bed sheet.
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HotFlamingMoe wrote:
Latest news in Boston is that he wrote John 3:16 on his forehead in red and left a Bible open to that verse on his cot reinforcing my belief that he finally accepted that he had done evil deeds and must pay for them and is now on the express train to hell.
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Butterbeans wrote:
C'mon Robert, you are smarter than this. Any dude who is stupid and impulsive enough to jeopardize his $40 million NFL contract by murdering his friend and not making any attempt to hide the corpse is also stupid and impulsive enough to hang himself in the middle of the night in jail.
I have never been to jail, but I am close to two well-known people who have been there and lived long enough to get out and talk about it. I think that the environment in jail / prison changes a man, and not for the better.
Dude, I didn't say I believed it. It was quite the opposite - i was like how could you possibly be murdered without people leaving marks.
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What he may have discovered is if he is dead his initial guilty conviction is vacated by a technicality, which then opens the door to his lawyers going after the Patriots to pay him his contract. That would provide some money for his daughter, if the lawyers don't spend it all fighting this. To me that is a long shot, but still in play.
You raise a fascinating point. I just fell out of my chair. MA has some weird law where if you die before your appeal, your conviction is over turned. That doesn't mean he'd be paid by the Patriots though. It's not MLB. In the NFL, you have to play to get paid as contracts aren't guaranteed.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-apos-murder-conviction-203523783.html -
rojo wrote:
His ex agent and some ex teammates say he wasn't wired that way.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/aaron-hernandez-agent-isnt-convinced-suicide-least-one-person-might-agree-142229813.html
I guess I'd respond to that by saying while I was shocked he killed himself given that days ago he was mouthing "I love you" to his girl, I don't think we know how anyone would react to a life in prison sentence. I mean now that he had the satisfaction of beating the guy accusing him of murder, what did he have to look forward to? Nothing basically.
So I can see how maybe he just said "F it. I'm out" even if he initially wasn't wired that way.
But the thing I don't get is what do these other people think happened? Hernandez is a huge dude. 250 pounds of muscle.How would someone go in there and hang him without him putting up a huge fight. These people implying he was murdered, don't they realize he'd have bruises and what not all over his body.
How would they get in their and hang him secretly without him putting up a fight?
How would you possibly do that without leaving tons of marks?
Grab him when he was asleep or something?
Have you ever had anyone close to you die under suspicious circumstances where one of the possibilities is they took their own life? I have and it's a pretty difficult thing to come to accept.
I had a close friend die--his death was ultimately ruled an accident--but shortly after his death there was a lot of speculation that he killed himself. Initially, I would get very, very angry at people who suggested he took is own life. He just didn't seem like the "type" who would do that to me.
However, now having some distance from the initial shock of his death I have come to realize I will never really know what happened and that it is possible he killed himself. It's still hard for me to accept this as it makes me feel as a failure as a friend. A big component of denial is guilt I think. You feel like you should've been able to do something.
I didn't care for Hernandez and his antics and I hate the Patriots but I have compassion for his family and friends. Even the possibility--and in this case it seems more like a certainty--that a loved one killed themselves is hard to deal with.