Aaron Hernandez just committed suicide in prison

xlev2 wrote:

I don't follow the NFL closely but the wiki entry on this guy makes him seem insane.

Same here. Reading up on him and just ... no words. But I still have no clue what the motives for the murders were.

You missed the point. A legal use of a constitutional right blackballs a capable player but a criminal conviction does not.

How does that make any sense?

If Mark Sanchez, Mike Glennon, Case Keenum, and Brock Osweiler are on rosters, you honestly believe Kaepernick should not be signed?

This is your brain on nationalism

El Keniano wrote:

Same here. Reading up on him and just ... no words. But I still have no clue what the motives for the murders were.

He's a sociopath.

Obuter wrote:

KenD wrote:

Well, at least he died doing what he loved

?? Killing someone?

doing dirty laundry

shameful wrote:

Name some wrote:

Which other countries rehab murderers and the like?

Sweden, Australia, Denmark, Singapore, Norway, Finland for starters

U.S. prison system is a money waste & a disgrace.

Sure. Now list the re-habbed and how they are doing.

letakillergo??? wrote:

And this goes for all individuals who kneel, regardless of color, religon, or beliefs. You don't like the flag or this country, and what you "believe" it represents, then walk directly south till you hit Mexico or some water. This way you can drown or leave the country.

It is comical that you don't see how un-American this line of thinking is.

"In Norway, fewer than 4,000 of the country's 5 million people were behind bars as of August 2014.

That makes Norway's incarceration rate just 75 per 100,000 people, compared to 707 people for every 100,000 people in the US.

On top of that, when criminals in Norway leave prison, they stay out. It has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world at 20%. The US has one of the highest: 76.6% of prisoners are re-arrested within five years."

http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12

letakillergo??? wrote:

Well thats 6 of 196... seems to be an extreme minority...

I may not agree with rehabbing a murderer and releasing them, but this has to be one of the worst counter-arguments I've ever seen. After some of the most advanced countries in the world were named you chose to use the appeal to popularity fallacy?

If you really believe what the majority(in any case) does must be the correct option, you need to stay in school and read a few more books. In the early 1800s, the vast majority were pro-slavery, does this make them right simply because they are the majority?

No matter what your political beliefs, you must understand that the opinion of the majority is not always correct; frequently the opinion of the majority is incorrect as most people are uneducated and are easily influenced by the opinions of others.

The majority of countries in the world have very corrupt correctional systems and many have not even established these systems and have criminals living on the streets. I'm sure you would not prefer to have what the majority of the world has.

He apparently had trouble with other inmates in prison and probably figured he would be had. He supposedly went even more ganster in prison and tried to take over. Some rival people did not appreciate that.

Zombie wrote:

You missed the point. A legal use of a constitutional right blackballs a capable player but a criminal conviction does not.

How does that make any sense?

If Mark Sanchez, Mike Glennon, Case Keenum, and Brock Osweiler are on rosters, you honestly believe Kaepernick should not be signed?

It makes perfect sense. Colin Kapernick would bring a lot of bad press to whatever team that might sign him, and his level of recent play was not nearly good enough to outweigh the public relations baggage that comes with him.

Nordician wrote:

"In Norway, fewer than 4,000 of the country's 5 million people were behind bars as of August 2014.

That makes Norway's incarceration rate just 75 per 100,000 people, compared to 707 people for every 100,000 people in the US.

On top of that, when criminals in Norway leave prison, they stay out. It has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world at 20%. The US has one of the highest: 76.6% of prisoners are re-arrested within five years."

http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12

You have successfully compared apples to oranges. Congratulations

XY wrote:

He apparently had trouble with other inmates in prison and probably figured he would be had. He supposedly went even more ganster in prison and tried to take over. Some rival people did not appreciate that.

I read an article a while back that said Hernandez was thriving in prison and seemed to really fit in with the gangster culture.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

Zombie wrote:

You missed the point. A legal use of a constitutional right blackballs a capable player but a criminal conviction does not.

How does that make any sense?

If Mark Sanchez, Mike Glennon, Case Keenum, and Brock Osweiler are on rosters, you honestly believe Kaepernick should not be signed?

It makes perfect sense. Colin Kapernick would bring a lot of bad press to whatever team that might sign him, and his level of recent play was not nearly good enough to outweigh the public relations baggage that comes with him.

Did you just say that without actually looking at his statistics and where he ranks compared to the approximately 62 quarterbacks that are currently under contract or do you not watch football? 23rd amongst starters in QBR in 2016. And that's because his added points were low.

He was playing with possibly the least talented team in the league (Cleveland maybe) with the worst coach in the league (no disputing that).

I guess convictions for attempted or accessory to murder, DUI manslaughter, drug possession, dog fighting, and other crimes are less "baggage" than kneeling and talking to the media too much.

It does not make sense.

XY wrote:

He apparently had trouble with other inmates in prison and probably figured he would be had. He supposedly went even more ganster in prison and tried to take over. Some rival people did not appreciate that.

He timed his suicide to coincide with the day his former team would be at the WH, and thereby upstage their moment in the sun. Remember, it was all about him.

XY wrote:

He apparently had trouble with other inmates in prison and probably figured he would be had. He supposedly went even more ganster in prison and tried to take over. Some rival people did not appreciate that.

He timed his suicide to coincide with the day his former team would be at the WH, and thereby upstage their moment in the sun. Remember, it was all about him.

If he were good enough to overcome the baggage he brings, he would have an offer. Greg Hardy was good enough for the Cowboys to sign him, and then he wasn't, so they didn't sign him again.

It's a particularly bad case of it too. Wishing death on people with different opinions...How patriotic.

Nordician wrote:

"In Norway, fewer than 4,000 of the country's 5 million people were behind bars as of August 2014.

That makes Norway's incarceration rate just 75 per 100,000 people, compared to 707 people for every 100,000 people in the US.

On top of that, when criminals in Norway leave prison, they stay out. It has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world at 20%. The US has one of the highest: 76.6% of prisoners are re-arrested within five years."

http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12

Let us all know when Anders Breivik is considered rehabilitated and released from the Norwegian prison system.