Trans runner competes against girls

markschultz25 wrote:

This shows how stupid liberals in America are...to think that a guy beating girls is inspirational. Maybe it is impressive for pansy liberal males..

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/04/transgender-teen-athlete-rising-star-inspiration/

Hey libs, do want this dude taking a piss next to your daughter in the girls bathroom?

Not a lib, but considering girls have individual bathroom stalls, I don't see the issue. Not like he/she would see anything.

Old Yeller wrote:

Not a lib, but considering girls have individual bathroom stalls, I don't see the issue. Not like he/she would see anything.

Better question, how about in the same locker room?

This video is like something straight from the Onion. It's absurd to the point that I wouldn't be completely surprised if this dude is trolling and turns out to be an advocate for women's athletics.

Old Yeller wrote:

Not a lib, but considering girls have individual bathroom stalls, I don't see the issue. Not like he/she would see anything.

If you have little girls, would you and your wife allow this guy into the girl's bathroom?

i dont get the problem. men and women can use the same bathroom as well. but probably americans are just not able to act decently

I think a school needs to accommodate those that may be uncomfortable with individual stalls to get ready, just as they would for a trans that may be uncomfortable in that setting. In terms of showers, let them shower at home if they are not comfortable. Hell, that is what most girls do anyway already. If my girls are comfortable changing in front of a trans, that would be there choice or they can find a different reasonable solution.

The locker room is a little more tricky, I'll give you that. But it is not that hard to find solutions without going all pitch forks and torches outrage on people.

But restrooms....seriously, who the hell cares. Girls have individual stalls. And guys, well we will piss anywhere in plain sight of others. If a girl really wants to use our disgusting bathrooms, go for it. All these restrictive policies do is make the crazies come out on the far left and far right to express outrage and do stupid things to prove their points or just plain old assault people. Let's let level heads prevail.

Back to the real issue at hand.

Biological boys should not be able to compete with girls as there is a clear biological advantage. Biological girls trying to compete with boys are actually at a disadvantage biologically. Let them compete where they want. If they start dominating, it would actually be impressive.

Sure. I have no reason to believe that this individual would assault my wife and child in a restroom just based on their gender identity or because she is black.

I've also never seen the person and therefore have seen no actions or behaviors that would suggest that this individual would harm my wife or child.

markschultz25 wrote:

Father is married to a race-traitor.

Shut the fvck up, you stupid POS.

By the way, do you think people forget that you've created multiple threads dedicated to oogling women who have injected themselves with more testosterone than most people who undergo a female-to-male transition? We'd need an IMAX theatre to capture the all of the projecting you're doing.

Big Meany wrote:

markschultz25 wrote:

Father is married to a race-traitor.

Shut the fvck up, you stupid POS.

By the way, do you think people forget that you've created multiple threads dedicated to oogling women who have injected themselves with more testosterone than most people who undergo a female-to-male transition? We'd need an IMAX theatre to capture the all of the projecting you're doing.

you must be Andraya.....oops did I offend your stepmother???

Bleu wrote:

MMA is not an Olympic or NCAA sport who cares!

Ok, then...

ée_Richards

I could go on and on...

As I said, nothing new...

Old Yeller wrote:

Back to the real issue at hand.

Biological boys should not be able to compete with girls as there is a clear biological advantage. Biological girls trying to compete with boys are actually at a disadvantage biologically. Let them compete where they want. If they start dominating, it would actually be impressive.

Yeah, locker rooms and bathrooms.. really? I don't care. This is about the athletic field itself, the actual competition. If all these women feel bad about losing their Oly medals to actual females that dope, how p!ssed will they be when guys in dresses start winning the races and sponsors rush to them so they can be seen as "inclusive"?

This will be interesting when someone with some pull has a daughter get beaten out of something important, only then will there be any real discussion.

Bobcat wrote:

Is this the answer for men's programs that get cut due to title IX ?

Actually it could make things even WORSE for Men's teams. I could see where the NCAA would make you fund this guy's scholarship out of the Men's budget, but he would compete on the women's side.

To fun his scholarship out of the women's budget would deny a real girl a scholarship and be a violation of Title IX. To deny him the "right" to compete as a woman would violate his individual right to pretend to be whatever gender he thinks he is, so he runs with the ladies.

So all the Class M coaches in Connecticut are ok with this? According to the editorial in the Hartford Courant, it is more important for sports to be about building an inclusive society than to be about competition. According to the Courant, it doesn't matter who has to come in second and third as long as the community is inclusive. Is that really what the coaches are having the kids work so hard for?

Aren't there other ways to build community?

It's one thing to win a 800m at a local meet. It's another when you start winning Regional and State titles.

I was a coach I would not have my girls race where this guy is running. I wouldn't make a big show of it, but I wouldn't make them have to deal with this stupidity.

"Hey, who won the girls 100 today?"

"That dude over there with the mustache."

"And the package?"

"Yeah, that one"

"Neat"

what is your real opinion? wrote:

So all the Class M coaches in Connecticut are ok with this? According to the editorial in the Hartford Courant, it is more important for sports to be about building an inclusive society than to be about competition. According to the Courant, it doesn't matter who has to come in second and third as long as the community is inclusive. Is that really what the coaches are having the kids work so hard for?

Aren't there other ways to build community?

It depends on what kind of community you are trying to build.

Those opposed to this (I am one) would really help out their case by not resorting to ugly name calling. AKA calling this transgender girl "a dude" and talking about "her balls." And constantly bashing "leftists"

This person needs to be treated with respect... that said this is an obvious competitive imbalance and completely unfair to the other female competitors.

The simplest solution would be that all transgender athletes need to compete in the male division.

A more expensive but nuanced version would be to put in hormone testing and set a limit for transgender athletes competing in the female division.

This is the natural outcome of declaring that Castor Semenya can compete without any testosterone limitations.

Duh1coach wrote:

Bobcat wrote:

Is this the answer for men's programs that get cut due to title IX ?

Actually it could make things even WORSE for Men's teams. I could see where the NCAA would make you fund this guy's scholarship out of the Men's budget, but he would compete on the women's side.

To fun his scholarship out of the women's budget would deny a real girl a scholarship and be a violation of Title IX. To deny him the "right" to compete as a woman would violate his individual right to pretend to be whatever gender he thinks he is, so he runs with the ladies.

I like the direction this is going. If a men's sport gets cancelled because of Title IX, then all the guys can simply identify as girls and take over the girl's team.

Remember they use the Civil Rights Act to justify this, which prohibits discrimination based on sex, race, religion, and age, so any white or Asian kid can identify as a black, Hispanic, or Native American and get preferential treatment during the college admissions process. There are certain aspects to this whole "let's deny reality" thing that I can work with. I say we go all the way with this and see where it ends.

Age group records should become meaningless when 25 year olds start identifying as 6 year olds. I hope none of you bigots complains about that.