Trans runner competes against girls

To all the liberals out there who think this transgender issue has gone too far, you will need to understand what you are up against before you can do anything about it. I can help with that.

Create a mental image of a typical Trump voter ... got it ... good. If you try to do or say anything about boys competing in girls sports, then you will come up against your own PC social justice warriors who will see you that way. They will consider you to be a racist bigoted evil unenlightened moran, and they will dehumanize you to the point where they can justify ignoring everything you say and want to punch your face in just for living.

If you are struggling with the concept, then just find a Make America Great Again hat and wear it around for a few days. That should do the trick.

Let me know when you've absorbed that lesson and then we'll move on to the next one.

Evidently we haven't understood the meaning of "girls" or "women" for all these years. Now we know the truth: man up, girls, the false dichotomy has finally been exposed.

It takes balls to do what she did, quite literally. While I have nothing against her being who she wants to be, for purposes of athletic competition, she should compete against persons with the same physical characteristics. It only takes one glance at the photo to see that she has a distinct advantage over her competitors. No HS athlete should be put in the position of having to say "I don't want to have to compete against her, she's male." If they keep quiet they will unfairly lose. If they speak out against her they will be lambasted. I don't think she should be allowed to compete against girls. 'Identify as' and 'possess the physical traits' are two VERY different things.

You need to file a lawsuit so we can get a good test case on this. The NCAA will need to clarify the rules regarding these athletes and how they are funded.

More than likely it will be funded from the Men's team, but the athlete would compete on the women' side.

Loiya wrote:

You need to file a lawsuit so we can get a good test case on this. The NCAA will need to clarify the rules regarding these athletes and how they are funded.

More than likely it will be funded from the Men's team, but the athlete would compete on the women' side.

Adding just 2-3 trans Man-girls to an xc team of 5 individuals would be awesome. When you consider what they could do on a relay, it's doubly awesome.

sundown wrote:

By virtually any standard you measure, life is worse by far in the red states.

Really, is that why people who live in blue states keep leaving because "the cost of living is too high" and move to red states. Just look at all the transplants in states like North Carolina, Arizona and Florida. Virginia used to be red until too many liberals moved there. The funny part about this is when liberals arrive in these previously mentioned red states they try to get the same policies enacted that caused them to flee their previous place of residence. No self reflection on why oppressive taxes and social programs caused the cost of living to become unbearable.

Liberalism really is a mental illness, those infected lose their ability to think rational and reason.

I don't think it's fair for trans runners to compete as women. Even if they take hormones, if they still have a penis, then they are in a male body. Testosterone is present.

My heart goes out to trans people, it is not an easy road. But on the track, if you have male equipment, you should compete as a dude.

IF they are post-op transexuals, it's realistic to compete as women.

I am trans, male to female. I compete as a male. No hormones, no surgery. I love being a girl, but I would never compete as one.

I ran a 1:57 800 in college. As a guy, it's nice to be under 2:00, but that and $2 gets you a coffee in a big meet, right?

Competing as female, it ain't bad. But I ran track as a man, and went shopping, partying and clubbing as a girl.

Just my opinion.

"I always thought I would not live to see FloJo's 100 and 200 world records go down, nor Koch's 400 or Kratochvilova's 800.

They will all fall in the next 10 years by a man "identifying" as a woman.

Now I am wondering if I will see the first sub-4:00 mile by a woman and the first sub-10 100m.

This is a sad time for women's sports. Even Title IX can't do anything to stop its inevitable destruction.

The only thing that may stop this trend is the day a man kills a woman competitor in a mixed marital arts competition."

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I'm pro LGBTQ and have no problem with however people want to self-identify but this simply is unfair to those who work so hard to achieve standards to advance; only to be bumped off my someone else, whom their training, diet, passion and talent can never complete with. I'm really thinking that ultimately the sport should be about achieving drug free 'Personal Bests Only' and never competing directly against others. I love 'Trans People' like anyone else, but they simply have an athletic advantage over 'fully functional' women that cannot be reconciled. Being Trans and beating a bunch of girls whom you KNOW are less capable, is like me blowing away a bunch of Middle School competitors while being a Senior in High School and then saying to everyone - "Look at me, how cool and strong I am for for showing them how tough I can run and how hard I train."

BigDuh wrote:

The best US female soccer team lost the a boys HS team. When it comes to sports, women and men are not equal.

100M: boys 15 yo: 10.36 - women: 10.49

200M: boys 14 yo: 20.89 - women: 21.34

400M: boys 14 yo: 46.96 - women: 47.60

800M: boys 14 yo: 1:51.23 - women: 1:53.28

1,500M: boys 14 yo: 3:48.37 - women: 3:50.07

5,000M: boys 15 yo: 14:10.92 - women: 14:11.15

10,000M: boys 16 yo: 29:03.27 - women: 29:17.45

Marathon: boys 19 yo: 2:11:47 - women: 2:15:25

Keep in mind that most of the women were obviously doped to the gills and the rest of them are suspected dopers. Also, young boys aren't allowed to concentrate on the longer distances. Sammy Wanjiru could easily have beat 2:15.25 as a 16 yo.

I'd say that the best clean women are on par with the best 13-14 year old boys.

To all SJWs and Libbtards: Get a clue and stay out of HS sports. Chicks compete with chicks, dudes compete with dudes, period.

If you want Trannies and gender-confused athletes included, than create a tranny division just for them.

Tranny guys winning all the Girls races.

When "inclusive" becomes "exclusive", next on Jerry Springer...

Reg Fields is a moron, and would not know critical thinking if it came up and bit him on the a--.

men > women wrote:

BigDuh wrote:

The best US female soccer team lost the a boys HS team. When it comes to sports, women and men are not equal.

100M: boys 15 yo: 10.36 - women: 10.49

200M: boys 14 yo: 20.89 - women: 21.34

400M: boys 14 yo: 46.96 - women: 47.60

800M: boys 14 yo: 1:51.23 - women: 1:53.28

1,500M: boys 14 yo: 3:48.37 - women: 3:50.07

5,000M: boys 15 yo: 14:10.92 - women: 14:11.15

10,000M: boys 16 yo: 29:03.27 - women: 29:17.45

Marathon: boys 19 yo: 2:11:47 - women: 2:15:25

Keep in mind that most of the women were obviously doped to the gills and the rest of them are suspected dopers. Also, young boys aren't allowed to concentrate on the longer distances. Sammy Wanjiru could easily have beat 2:15.25 as a 16 yo.

I'd say that the best clean women are on par with the best 13-14 year old boys.

More importantly, any mediocre 9:30, 4:25, 1:58, 53 guy could probably quadruple at a state championship meet and win the team championship by himself.

Just because there has not been a trans runner that "talented" yet doesn't make it okay for trans to bump girls off a relay spot or steal points at a quad.

To me, allowing born males to compete as girls without medical treatment is a clear violation of title ix.

So true! Can't wait to watch this play out. Like the girl in NC who wants to piss in the boys bathroom. Let's see the liberals fight this battle. Wait until their precious 5:04 miler daughter gets kicked off the DMR.

Even if the male has his *ick removed and is on hormones he has the benefit of 15 yrs of androgens. So pathetic!

There is a boy swimming on the Harvard team who used to be a girl. She does pretty well (not last). It's comming.

If only the hatred trolls weren't here, there is an interesting issue here for discussion. I actually doubt all the hating trolls are as mentally defective as they sound; I suspect they are just acting out their emotional immaturity.

Fiona wrote:

Reg Fields is a moron, and would not know critical thinking if it came up and bit him on the a--.

Really, I accurately predicted Trump's victory when almost everyone else was mhappy subgroup what was right in front if them. Looks like I hit a nerve with you snowflake...

observable wrote:

If only the hatred trolls weren't here, there is an interesting issue here for discussion. I actually doubt all the hating trolls are as mentally defective as they sound; I suspect they are just acting out their emotional immaturity.

That's the problem with you SJWs, you get triggered by your emotions. You ignore logic and scream "racist" or "bigot" if anyone disagrees with you. You expect to society to live by your rules- it doesn't work that way, bitches. You are the demented ones, not us.

I would self identify as a lefty- gun control is good etc... any sane person outside of America knows it.

As for this issue, boys transitioning to girls shouldn't compete with girls because they are NOT girls. Sure, it probably sucks to be in their position but why should all the girl athletes have to deal with it for the tiny percentage of the population that have an unfair advantage.

Why bother having separate girls and boys divisions? If girls had to compete with boys for a spot on a team, you wouldn't see any girls participating in sports.

Sorry but this is silly. Essentially, I'd rather that it be fair to all the girls instead of the one transgender girl.

I'm glad that she has a supportive family but it's not all about her.