Bizarre tweet by o'lionaird re: sumgong

Ok - so tell us why

redux wrote:

Maybe he's annoyed that people are assuming/announcing her guilt prior to her B sample results? Until that comes out her A sample is just circumstantial and doesn't condemn her. I know we aren't talking about a "legal" issue, but don't we assume her innocence until her guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt?

A sample results always condemn. Unless it's an American like Bernard Lagat.

Dat niqqa wrote:

close but no cig wrote:

O'Lionaird has a Nike gig for one reason.

Think about it. Why else would Nike keep a guy on the running payroll for years who had a few good races in 2011-2012, then nothing for 4 years. Then the minute he retires, he works for Nike.

Why?

Why could this be?

With no inside info, one reason could be he developed a relationship with key Nike people. Maybe they liked him?

He's also Irish, and can work U.K. MARKET...

I second this. I'd respect you guys more if you could at least own your garbage people status. People need garbage. At least 25% of the world is populated by garbage people. You provide a service to those who need it but it's by no means quality journalism or a website that fosters quality dialogue. Own it already.

Argh! wrote:

rojo wrote:

Nice find. I often say tone is often lost on both twitter and email but also wonder what he is meaning.

Remember he's the guy who in 2012 called us the "The gutter press" when we pointed out that a man with a 10 year doping ban (Mark Block) was being wined and dined in the Nike VIP tent at the US Olympic Trials.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4667211&page=3#4667463

Doesn't mean you're still not the "gutter press."

agip wrote:

sounds to me he is just a rebel and hates the corporate press - thinks that they are just out to sell ads.

That's a pretty common 'occupy wall street' type attitude - basically a nihilistic 'pox on all their houses' attitude.

lots of young white men in black hoodies feel that way

An ''occupy wall street' type' who works for and defends a multi billion dollar organization? Your narrative doesn't add up.

[quote]agip wrote:

sounds to me he is just a rebel and hates the corporate press - thinks that they are just out to sell ads.

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and how is selling ads any worse than selling $200 shoes to kids in the ghetto?

Argh! wrote:

Dat niqqa wrote:

With no inside info, one reason could be he developed a relationship with key Nike people. Maybe they liked him?

He's also Irish, and can work U.K. MARKET...

He's going to market Jordan's to Irish kids????

The truth is he knows dirt on Salazar.

Before NOP stuff went big, Nike had people sign NDA for those who left, kept others around who didn't need to be but knew inside stuff.

Inside source.

OverTheHillAndBackAgain wrote:

agip wrote:

sounds to me he is just a rebel and hates the corporate press - thinks that they are just out to sell ads.

That's a pretty common 'occupy wall street' type attitude - basically a nihilistic 'pox on all their houses' attitude.

lots of young white men in black hoodies feel that way

An ''occupy wall street' type' who works for and defends a multi billion dollar organization? Your narrative doesn't add up.

Well, the occupy Wall Street folks don't really make much sense to begin with. Liberals are spectacular at justifying actions that are completely counterintuitive.

That puhdaydo head is a dork from Cork.

Fuhgedaboudit.

I feel sorry for any young lad with an IQ over 70 that has to try to defend Nike.

It's called satire you maroons. He's clearly just trying to say that you should wait for b sample.

I'm just kidding I have no idea I just wanted to call people maroons.

close but no cig wrote:

O'Lionaird has a Nike gig for one reason.

Think about it. Why else would Nike keep a guy on the running payroll for years who had a few good races in 2011-2012, then nothing for 4 years. Then the minute he retires, he works for Nike.

Why?

Why could this be?

*Speculating as someone who's followed his path since FSU*

I can understand what you mean by this, but I cannot believe that yours isn't the only reason. I actually think he's garnered the role/knowledge you speak of only recently, as in less than I year or so.

Here's what's gotten us to here IMO:

Dude becomes a leader on a, at the time, up-and-coming distance group at a great track school. Bombs the 5k at nats when it could've helped scoring greatly, and bombs a la Jenny Barringer in XC. Not his fault, but devasting for sure when that looked to be a crowning moment in his career.

Gets his pro gig with OTC. Becomes a national folk hero overnight with a World Champs final while rocking a crazy mullet-mohawk. Next few years, he's in the mix at the start, but never in the hunt. Finally, after pushing the envelope to take the next step, he picks up chronic injuries that probably required extended time off, which he didn't take intially.

Now, a few years ago, I saw he managed the OTC social media. He seemed to fancy photography, as a lot of guys have that are or have been associated with the team it seems. The more I see him post, the more I'm like "ok, he's taking some real time off." He then started doing things at the youth level for groups like BTC's youth runners.

I mention all of this because, by now, between being sponsored by Nike, working out and rehabbing with them, missing summer track seasons abroad while staying in Portland, and (most important) genuinely loving the brand, he's connected to a world of athletics that knows things that we do not know of right now. He's in, he's behind the brand, and...

...he understands the reality of what we've been watching in competive running. As a good friend of mine once said: "they only remember the winners." It's never been truer.

Think about when someone is described as doing "anything to win". ANYTHING?

(Ciaran, feel free to check me if I missed anything)

redux wrote:

Maybe he's annoyed that people are assuming/announcing her guilt prior to her B sample results? Until that comes out her A sample is just circumstantial and doesn't condemn her. I know we aren't talking about a "legal" issue, but don't we assume her innocence until her guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt?

He didn't mention that.

...he understands the reality of what we've been watching in competive running.

He could feel that doping is not bad for the sport and/or is inevitable and should be accepted. Or he could feel that doping is bad but understand that positive results like this should not give us the false impression that most offenders are caught.

It's pretty obvious that certain parties are "too big to fail," others not so much.

Here is your answer:

https://twitter.com/gociaran/status/850406183542194176

That's a nice story.

O'Lionaird joined NOP, before being let go.

Nike had to do something with him so they let him join OTC.

Ciaran is about doing what's best for Ciaran. For the last 2 years it's been to be a Nike fanboy. Play the cards, get a job. That's all this is, nothing more, nothing less.

He portrays righteous indignation about people being "fake" with clean sport. He is against vocal people who speak out. He tries to claim that they are doing it for themselves, for media, for self-promotion. Why? Because that's what Ciaran does.

I can't find the post now and it was a long time ago but he certainly once posted a defence of Carmelita Jeter with #Teamjet added.

Fair chance it was around the time of the Mark Block thing .

It is difficult to take the thoughts of a man who would defend Jeter seriously.

Track has never been clean, has never been serious about eliminating doping, and any athlete who touches elite level has doped and must remain kayfabe.

Since they're all guilty, they don't see it as cheating, so they're offended when nosy journalists start trying to out them.

What to tell them is they're not real professional athletes because the sport is a financial failure. Nobody pays to see them compete. Who cares how fast a lab experiment can go? I doubt even their sponsors make any money from them.

C O'L seems to think anti-doping should be scrapped.

Doesn't like that his friends are always getting investigated? Mad that he only got two squirts on the massage table?