Kara's mixed messages about AlSal can be puzzling..

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The unsettling part every time this resurfaces is that Goucher doesn't acknowledge how much she benefited from his style of coaching. Wants to tear it down instead.

Same with Magness. Practically every piece of press attention he received prior to this story was with the label of "former NOP coach" to give him credibility. He has benefited immensely with that on his resume and had no problem exploiting that.

Ungrateful people. Disloyal. Non-hirable in the future. That's what Goucher doesn't understand, sponsors appreciate loyalty.

The audacity of it all.

Maybe you need to reconsider your fanboiness.

Obese America wrote:

The unsettling part every time this resurfaces is that Goucher doesn't acknowledge how much she benefited from his style of coaching. Wants to tear it down instead.

Same with Magness. Practically every piece of press attention he received prior to this story was with the label of "former NOP coach" to give him credibility. He has benefited immensely with that on his resume and had no problem exploiting that.

Ungrateful people. Disloyal. Non-hirable in the future. That's what Goucher doesn't understand, sponsors appreciate loyalty.

You're delusional if you think it's helped any of their careers.

Goucher lost her sponsor and took a small deal from Oiselle.

Magness coaches at a sprint school with no scholarship money in the distance program and has turned to a field completely separate from running (writing) to escape it.

Kara didn't lose her sponsor. She walked away. That was her choice.

Kara has not come forward with any real evidence. Every year she pops back in the running media and says "I feel like I did the right thing by coming forward". What did she come forward with? She promised to show everyone real evidence. She has come forward with NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING, but a sore looser attitude.

I'm sorry but she is not good for this sport and most people are happy she has faded away.

Saying Kara had an affair is a stretch and highly doubtful. That being said, it still makes no sense that Salazar would dope up all his athletes except his golden child, at the time, Kara Goucher. That's the only reason I find this doping scandal hard to believe. Galen Rupp was good then but Kara was the star of that show. If he wanted anyone to win then, it was Kara.

JUSTICE IS COMING!!!

I'mgonnaSayIT wrote:

I'm gonna call it how it is.

I think that Kara despises Salazar because of a long time affair and fall out She literally burns with hate for this guy and ruining the entire project, shes even seems jealous that she isn't part of the project anymore. The lady is a complete whackjob MESS. I have been around enough women to know that some kind of affair happened based on how she acts.

No affair on Kara's part, but the Salazar part you're on to something.

Sleazy Sal is for more than just the drugs.

Oh great - another thread where haters can bash Kara and Steve for no reason.

Not as important as doping, but this Kara quote is odd:

“A lot of publications I used to work with won’t work with me anymore because their number one advertising dollars come from Nike."

What are these "lots of publications"? And what does she mean "work with"? Maybe she means Competitor, but if they're covering her less, it has more to do with her and others (Deena Kastor, etc.) no longer having Competitor promotional relationships. Plus the fact she hasn't raced in 14 months.

She has a talent for making vague, if-only-you-knew-the-whole-truth statements that she then can't or refuses to back up. To me, if you say dubious things like the above about "lots of publications" then you lose credibility on other matters when you speak similarly.

Cytomel Claim: what I don't get about this is that we know for a fact that Karas Dr instructed AlSal to give Cytomel to Kara. Kara argues that she's talking about a different time. In that case is it so hard to believe that her Dr also instructed him to give it to her that time? On top of that if she is already taking Cytomel, why is it such a big deal if he gives it to her? Lastly it's not a banned substance so she really isn't accusing them of doping, just prescription drug laws?

Either way I've heard more than enough from her and would prefer if the media put their efforts into someone else who isn't craving attention.

its because when you take HGH it messes with your thyroid, so you need to take cytomel to keep the thyroid working properly. just like the vit D injections, i cant remember now but i found through some simpe google searching that one of the PEDs side effects was vit D deficiency.

its not that hard people. salazar micro dopes his prize pupils with the good stuff, gets the tues for it, it looks legit cause they are low in this or deficient in that so he always has that to fall back on. he is "laundering" like the mob...they do illegal sales, but have a few restaurants to make the books legit looking.

and if any of you remember when sal came at her with cut and paste sections of the emails between the two you can see plane as day they were having an affair. THIS is her biggest fear, she cant admit all the PED usage without them finding out about the affair.

Yeah, nothing has come out yet about any of Salazar's cheating. As a coach you have to use all legally available means out there, because everyone else is and then some. Saying that a Silver Medal would have changed her career trajectory is a stretch. It really didn't do much for Leo and he has pretty good US championship record all the way around.

She doesn't seem to understand that Abeylegesse being DQd means Kara gets promoted in position only. What makes her think she would have been only 2 seconds back of Dibaba, when she actually finished 7 seconds back? Without Abeylegesse it was a really weak field, and Dibaba on a bad day still crushed.

I'm glad the cheater was caught, but in this case it means next to nothing for those further down the order.

Time Machine? wrote:

She doesn't seem to understand that Abeylegesse being DQd means Kara gets promoted in position only. What makes her think she would have been only 2 seconds back of Dibaba, when she actually finished 7 seconds back? Without Abeylegesse it was a really weak field, and Dibaba on a bad day still crushed.

I'm glad the cheater was caught, but in this case it means next to nothing for those further down the order.

She probably assumes at this point that everyone ahead of her was cheating (she was cheating too, but in her mind she was entitled to do so).

DeerReaderGoucher wrote:

Not as important as doping, but this Kara quote is odd:

“A lot of publications I used to work with won’t work with me anymore because their number one advertising dollars come from Nike."

What are these "lots of publications"? And what does she mean "work with"? Maybe she means Competitor, but if they're covering her less, it has more to do with her and others (Deena Kastor, etc.) no longer having Competitor promotional relationships. .

Yet she has a roomfull of magazine covers of herself. Narcissistic much

At least she didn't whine about Amy and Shalane having the fast shoes this time around. Maybe someone pointed out Desi didn't have the fast shoes and smoked her.