By your philosophy, his answer is irrelevant as long as it is the best he can do on that given day. So why ask the question?
By your philosophy, his answer is irrelevant as long as it is the best he can do on that given day. So why ask the question?
Stoppit Smith wrote:
I see.
So, today's training run/walk
5.73 miles running in 50:28 (net 44:27) (includes 6 min. of traffic lights)
Plus..
.56 walk
1.45 miles running
.69 walk
.56 run
plus 2.52 miles of fast walking
Total: 11.51 miles (7.74 run, 3.77 walk)
I think I am doing plenty fine. No? If not, what did you do today?
This is for all of those who work hard despite the naysayers.
For someone admonishing people for focusing on numbers, you sure do have a focus on numbers. What is your definition of fast walking? 4mph?5mph?6mph?
This is simple.Running numbers are okay.Pounds are not.They do not weigh you pre-race or pre-training
Stuart's Brother wrote:
Stoppit Smith wrote:I see.
So, today's training run/walk
5.73 miles running in 50:28 (net 44:27) (includes 6 min. of traffic lights)
Plus..
.56 walk
1.45 miles running
.69 walk
.56 run
plus 2.52 miles of fast walking
Total: 11.51 miles (7.74 run, 3.77 walk)
I think I am doing plenty fine. No? If not, what did you do today?
This is for all of those who work hard despite the naysayers.
For someone admonishing people for focusing on numbers, you sure do have a focus on numbers. What is your definition of fast walking? 4mph?5mph?6mph?
Right.This is true until he evaluated.Naturally, it is important to see if he is qualified
Lurker wrote:
By your philosophy, his answer is irrelevant as long as it is the best he can do on that given day. So why ask the question?
Stoppit Smith wrote:
Right.
This is true until he evaluated.
Naturally, it is important to see if he is qualified
Lurker wrote:By your philosophy, his answer is irrelevant as long as it is the best he can do on that given day. So why ask the question?
While it's not as much as others on these boards do, I typically am running ~60mpw averaging ~7'00" for the week (easy & long runs). Then you add in workouts. And zero walking (because who logs any walking they do? If it's not running, don't put it down)
This one is simple to address for me.I have timed myself in a track walking mile in 9:50.In 2007, I walked a half marathon in a pace of 11:57 per mile.In 2008, I walked a marathon in 5:40, with the first half being in 2:29, or an 11:23 pace.I still practice walking and just last week, I did a 14.5 mile walk which included several hills in a pace of 14 and change, or a sub-14 pace sans traffic light stops.One hill was up about 600 feet in about 1.4 miles.We are never talking a beach stroll here, dude. If you as a 7 minuter count your slower paces, I can certainly count my walking.You are going to fight this but so am I.Let's bring more than pretense. My result link is on page one. Are you really that much better that you feel entitled to judge every aspect?Really?
NotQuentonCassidy wrote:
Stoppit Smith wrote:Right.
This is true until he evaluated.
Naturally, it is important to see if he is qualified
While it's not as much as others on these boards do, I typically am running ~60mpw averaging ~7'00" for the week (easy & long runs). Then you add in workouts. And zero walking (because who logs any walking they do? If it's not running, don't put it down)
Stoppit Smith wrote:
This is simple.
Running numbers are okay.
Pounds are not.
They do not weigh you pre-race or pre-training
You are all over the place.
That is a good mantra for you. Others may disagree. Some people weight themselves. So quit with the fat acceptance bul... stuff.
Yes.The key word is -themselves-It is not up to anyone else but the runner regarding themselves what they look like.In other words, quoting myself...nunya.All over the place? Nah, you are simply seeing someone who does not regard you as a guru responding in kind.Real people speak their minds.Voila!
Stuart's brother wrote:
Stoppit Smith wrote:This is simple.
Running numbers are okay.
Pounds are not.
They do not weigh you pre-race or pre-training
You are all over the place.
That is a good mantra for you. Others may disagree. Some people weight themselves. So quit with the fat acceptance bul... stuff.
When it comes to running weight is more than an aesthetic. Only an idiot or a troll would argue otherwise. Which are you?
Stoppit Smith wrote:
...It is not up to anyone else but the runner regarding themselves what they look like.
I am a runner who disagrees with you.Next?
captian obvious wrote:
When it comes to running weight is more than an aesthetic. Only an idiot or a troll would argue otherwise. Which are you?
Stoppit Smith wrote:...It is not up to anyone else but the runner regarding themselves what they look like.
And you have the right to disagree. You don't have the right to silence what you don't agree with. So Stoppit Smith, stop trying to tell people what they can or can't post.
Stoppit Smith wrote:
I am a runner who disagrees with you.
Next?
]
That is a big no.This is running forum.This is not a place to attack the overweight.This is not a place to attack the over skinny.This is not a place to critique shallow aspects that have nothing to do with shoes and the pavement.I am not trying to tell you, but rather, I am telling you.If you are not stopping, I am not stopping.I owe it to all of the people many of you have been mean to.And that is that.
captian obvious wrote:
And you have the right to disagree. You don't have the right to silence what you don't agree with. So Stoppit Smith, stop trying to tell people what they can or can't post.
Stoppit Smith wrote:I am a runner who disagrees with you.
Next?
]
If you're coming to these boards for 100% factual discussions on the sport of running, you're in the wrong place. People like you is what makes these boards enjoyable.
Stoppit Smith wrote:
Okay, letsrunners:
After reading threads here for years, it occurs to me that there is so much of an emphasis on weight for runners. If someone did not have a complex about being over or underweight, they can certainly learn how to have one here.
Let us start by saying that I can and will never look like Eliud Kipchoge, Dejen Gebremeskel, Meb Keflezighi or Dathan, Galen, Ryan or Alan. These are runners that I will always respect for their abilities.
However, I know that there are a lot of runners like me who likely drift several pounds upward or back down in a year. Within both men and women, there are people who are not going to be built what people consider perfect for running, yet we are out there giving it our all. People say weight makes a difference, but how much difference does it really make. Let's look...
in 1991-92 in high school--I ran one year of cross-country and one year of track in my senior year after playing football other years. Cross-country season I was about 155 pounds and track season about 145. My best times were
5k 22:02
5k street 19:56
2 mile 12:09
1 mile 5:33
in college I found it hard to fit there and negotiating a busy schedule and all, by the middle of my freshman year I was close to 184. In my sophomore year, I went up to my highest weight of 194. But I learned how to play basketball and worked my weight down again. By senior year I was back around the 148-150 range..and ran a 20:04 on a recreational 5K cross country race.
Flash forward to now. For the last 16-17 years, my weight is within a typical range of 168-183, with a median of about 172. At 43 years old, this should make me slower, right?
Not exactly.
For the last several years, I have been running and training and racing and I now have personal bests of
19:35 5K street (2015)
33:52 8K cross-country (2016)
43:04 10K street (2016)
1:41:10 half marathon (2016)
and I do this with a waist of about 34-35 inches and 39-40 inch hips, which would be considered big by many for a runner. I have never had a knee, ankle or any other injury and I can successfully mid-foot strike in shoes that weigh 8.3 ounces without crushing them.
My point?
Do not sweat your weight because your weight does not define you. I feel that I fit in as a runner no matter what anyone says.
After yesterday's 2.5 mile run on a local track after work in 18 minutes, I feel that I am still faster and can get there even if I am not what one would paint as a typical runner.
I think it's time we made a contract with ourselves..
Dear Self,
I am a runner. I am a good runner. I like the way it feels when I run and I like the way I feel after I have completed a good run. If I do not feel too fat or too skinny during my run, then I will not let anyone put that thought in my head before or after the run. I do this for me. I am the perfect weight, height, build, for me at this time. I do this world, this workout and my goals for me. I have earned it. Sincerely _____________
This needed to be said.
Mike
You need to lose some weight.
Update: Liver and Steamed brown rice for lunch. FUK it . I am all in.
Such Wisdom!
Wow!
Oh..wait...it's just blind flippancy.
For whom, precisely, would I be losing this weight?
Are you Stuart Smalley?
No he isn't. But I have been captain obvious in this thread. I would post under my real handle, but these crazy threads worry me.
Crazy Thread?I am sorry, but do conscience and running run opposite of each other?Can runners NOT be nice and accepting?
Stuart Smalley wrote:
No he isn't. But I have been captain obvious in this thread. I would post under my real handle, but these crazy threads worry me.
Do you know who should lose some weight? Kara goucher. maybe she wouldn't be injured all the time if she wasn't overweight.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing