barely watch it anymore wrote:
Track is pretty anti-white these days.
LRC message boards are pretty anti-black these days.
barely watch it anymore wrote:
Track is pretty anti-white these days.
LRC message boards are pretty anti-black these days.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
I will readily admit that I don't know anything about distance performance and doping...but I do know about the sprint world.
In my experience, distance runners are much farther from criminality than are sprinters--I mean mentally, emotionally, and physically. You have to be careful with sprinters. You non-sprinters looking in from the outside, you really don't see anything. You have no idea what it's like.
None.
Nor can you understand it by way of explanation. Like military, prison, etc., you have to experience it to understand it. Very few, if any, elite sprinters come from anything other than poverty, and they quickly learn how things work in the yard.
To your credit, you limited to your assertion to your experience. Still, this is among the most bizarre things I've ever read on LRC, and that's saying something. I've spent my whole life in the company of sprinters (they're in my family) and criminality hasn't been a going concern, unless you consider making dinner and not cleaning the dishes a crime, which I actually do. Damn those sprinters!
Regarding Lance, I hadn't really given it much thought, until after reading the "nyvelocity" interview of Michael Ashenden, in 2009.
Operacion...BUSTED wrote:
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I'm sure that 90% of people here including rekrunner (acc. to his statistics - everything is clean - no suspicion, no positive testing - so...), will be still thinking of L. Armstrong as the greatest American athlete if he didn't admit doping publicly....
These days? You mean since day one....MurderDubs wrote:
barely watch it anymore wrote:Track is pretty anti-white these days.
LRC message boards are pretty anti-black these days.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Hi Casual, how are you?
I've been meaning to ask if you had ever heard that some of these SARMs and Cardarine are perpetually traceable in testing? When I first heard about them (firstly I thought WTF is a SARM as I had been out of the sport for awhile) and when I checked many bodybuilding websites had postings by people worried about getting caught on them.
I was out of town... and didn't want to get trolled while traveling.
Cardarine is not a SARM. While I am a biochemist, that is not exactly my area.
But yes, as with steroids, some SARMs are detectable, others are not. The good old race between (chemists/pharmacists and) athletes and testers.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/bjsports-2014-093526Regardless, when WADA can decide to ignore positive tests in 2016, it is pretty pointless.
barely watch it anymore wrote:
Track is pretty anti-white these days.
I don't watch elite track anymore beause of the doping issue but I don't think it is anti white. The IAAF did a lot to cover up Radcliffe's questionable blood values with their list of excuses in their whitewash report.
Like many other aspects of life like media etc ,
the intelligense services of anglo-american sphere
have their hands all over track .
have a british agent running it ,
decide who dopes and controls the narrative .
able to push certain agendas that they seem worthwhile
have contolled opposition telling you how to think and react ,
through the likes of the media , Wada ,nike , and here ARD .
game is up they can nearly pick the winner .
when an athlete like bolt is shoved down your troat with media
you know he is likely an intelligence project.
agendas
like what happening in womens 800m .
would that happen even 5 years ago.
pushing scottish track now also
with their coaches dealing out the dope de jeur.
igf-1 lr3 is what changed track , no doubts in my mind .
but the spooks at iaaf /wada have you think otherwise .
We keep hearing that growth is undetectable , so what is the purpose of drug control ?
We hear that both the competing nations and the IOC took special actions to avoid contaminated foods , so where lies the corner stone of doping control, that of strict liability ?
All becoming the nonesense that was clear to some at the outset of doping control.
And we have yet to deal with the human rights issues of viewed urineation and whereabouts violations.
Perhaps rather than holding collective hands in the air in horror about another possible positive we should be seeing all of this in the light of possible no doping control as such is a waste of a billion pounds .
aduck2002 wrote:
decide who dopes and controls the narrative .
able to push certain agendas that they seem worthwhile
.
This was clear cut at the 2013 Moscow Games.
1. Savinova loosing to Sum. Also take note of who was leading the up to 750m.
2. Fraser Pryce double. Felix had a cramp(Really) and Jeter was injured. Notice this was the end of Jeter's career.
3. Miss UK who only peaks at Global Championships. 400m.
Usain Bolt is too big to fail.
aduck2002 wrote:
Like many other aspects of life like media etc ,
the intelligense services of anglo-american sphere
have their hands all over track .
have a british agent running it ,
decide who dopes and controls the narrative .
able to push certain agendas that they seem worthwhile
have contolled opposition telling you how to think and react ,
through the likes of the media , Wada ,nike , and here ARD .
game is up they can nearly pick the winner .
when an athlete like bolt is shoved down your troat with media
you know he is likely an intelligence project.
agendas
like what happening in womens 800m .
would that happen even 5 years ago.
pushing scottish track now also
with their coaches dealing out the dope de jeur.
igf-1 lr3 is what changed track , no doubts in my mind .
but the spooks at iaaf /wada have you think otherwise .
Absolutely. They are making lots of $$$ from Bolt. Listen to how all the UK announcers gush like school girls over Bolt ("The great man." How many British aristos are hiding cash in Jamaican banks? Have to keep good relations with those offshore tax havens, keep the people there happy with UK.
Each of the cases are different with different sets of circumstances and should be broken out and dialoged separately.
NOP has not been found to be using anything illegal and its athletes all have a long history of being tested.
Jama is interesting in his case as we were told what was found and assume drug use, but nothing has happened?
Jamaica is a whole new but old story. Something is going on with the Jamaican athletes , their federation and the apparent cover up by covering bodies. The contaminated beef story doesn't hold water. Beef is imported to China from Australia mainly for consumption by foreigners. China beef, come on guys.
Provide for once proof that IGF-1 LR3 is being used by runners or stop saying it.
aduck2002 wrote:
And not a single mention of the real dope ....................................
IGF -1 LR3
2008 was when jamica as team hit the scene ,
and was'nt due to clenbuterol.
no testing , serious hormones and this peptide where at .
Ard are nothing but controlled opposition and more than likely
getting paid by iaaf / wada .
this is the level of control they have over narrative .
these bad boys will be caught !!!!!!
same for kenya and now doping probably worse , with this stuff anyway.
may as well go to south africa next and show what a great job doing there,
Western athletes need to train harder and stop making excuses for their athletes' laziness - "It's genetics, it's age-cheating, it's drugs, it's altitude." Work harder or stick to hitting a little white ball around and other sports you can do while being (relatively) fat and out of shape.
notyet wrote:
Western athletes need to train harder and stop making excuses for their athletes' laziness - "It's genetics, it's age-cheating, it's drugs, it's altitude." Work harder or stick to hitting a little white ball around and other sports you can do while being (relatively) fat and out of shape.
This story is about Jamaicans (or the IAAF on behalf of the Jamaicans) making excuses for failed drug tests. Not about 'Western athletes making excuses'.
Try to keep up.
Exactly. My point was that it is not helpful to mix discussions in this way. It seems to happen a lot here. For example, NOP gets tossed into lots of discussions but the comparison of facts is not clear. There are a few different stories to follow In running and, when making comparisons, I think the site should make sure that each set of circumstances is clear. The differences are significant.
wer.aiupoasf wrote:
Provide for once proof that IGF-1 LR3 is being used by runners or stop saying it.
If it's undetectable there wouldn't be any proof from a "positive" test...now would there? 🤔. Certainly, HGH is definitely out there:
http://www.sportstarlive.com/other-sports/spain-arrests-14-seizes-large-doping-stash/article17618989.eceThis Sprintgeezar guy bugs everyone with his PED PED PED crap.
Go ask seb coe or mi6 all about igf-1 lr3 .
or why not try source proper pharma grade stuff yourself
,take it to peak cycle and report back to us .
all that money is disappearing down some hole at wada
largely , a front like fake science or climate change
regardless of opionion on clinate change ,anthropogenic or natural ,etc
these researches are all lining own pockets
another afew million to fudge some figures ,thank you .
Pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Jamasauce wrote:Jamaica doping good, Russia doping bad?
Russian doping bad because Russia didn't pay. Apparently, Jamaica is paying well.
BTW, Bolt is never testing positive.
Angel, "Memo" Hermida still doping. I'm shocked!
Bolt WONT EVER test positive, because he is beyond reproach, he has EXTREMELY strong, MORALS, PRINCIPLES and ETHICS, he loves the sport, but FAR more important than winning is fair play, good sportsmanship and having fun, he would rather finish last than cheat, he would not be able to look himself in the mirror if he cheated, this thread about cheating, should have NEVER mentioned USAIN BOLT, if you are looking for a cheater BOLT is NOT that guy.